BF2142 vehicles weapons - shields?

[KiLL3r]

there a new bf2142 video with states all vehicles name etc also shows off some new extras for example shields!

once it finishes downloading i will post pics of everything so you dont have to waste 150mb just to watch it

http://totalbf2142.filecloud.com/files/file.php?user_file_id=183650

http://totalbf2142.com/images/potd/activedefense.jpg

[KiLL3r]

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9673/l5riesig1sj.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4437/mk1titan5xm.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8133/type21neko5yk.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/60/t39bog4gf.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6771/btr4romanov6og.jpg

[KiLL3r]

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1867/ud6talon9os.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/4880/type4dorgan3mo.jpg

[KiLL3r]

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/410/eusupport3pa.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/88/pacassault7mj.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7535/sd8accipiter6cg.jpg

[Spacemonkey]

The gun ships looks pretty sweet, so does the tank.

[KiLL3r]

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6373/shields6ob.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2967/shields22uf.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8398/emp8wh.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2271/a12enforcer4yb.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/928/assaultpod0kc.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/531/bloc2atm1jq.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/596/activecamo8mt.jpg
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6816/dogtags6jf.jpg

[KiLL3r]

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8418/weaponselect6sy.jpg

[Menial]

they're fucken robots vs men

[GhostOfGallipoli]

the more i see of this game, the more i'm tempted. even with all it's problems BF2 has provided me with a years worth of entertainment

[Reznard]

If I do end up buying this game its gonna be because of that item system, I love that idea.

[Arnifix]

If I do end up buying this game its gonna be because of that item system, I love that idea.

Totatlly. RPG/FPS FTW.

[KiLL3r]

If I do end up buying this game its gonna be because of that item system, I love that idea.

well they said you could have 150,000 different combinations :sunnies:

[Black Heart]

149,990 will probably suck as combo's

[KiLL3r]

149,990 will probably suck as combo's

yeah yeah we already know how you feel about a game you have yet to play

[5loth]

can't wait to fly that doragon, unless its controlled by robots and i just get to sit in it :sly:

[Black Heart]

yea my mistake, imagine basing my opinion on their track record, instead of fawning over a few screenshots and short clips. it's pointless basing your decision on game content, as they probably will drop the bits you like as they are too hard or costly.

[GhostOfGallipoli]

well, to be fair....their track record equals:



BF1942, a genre busting game that is still played today, years after it's release

BF Vietnam, a flawed but still good game

BF 2, a game that despite the many MANY problems with it is still one of the the best and most played games around, even a year after release

[`Dirty Heathen]

Yes at the end of the day I have really enjoyed Bf2 it has been excellent regardless of bugs or stupid patches and game changes along the way I also really enjoyed BFV so I will keep buying the BF seris.


Bummed I missed out on the 1942 days but hopfully FH2 will be good.

[Black Heart]

BF2 a game with major flaws that after a year (its not actually a year old, but meh) is worse than the first public release.

And notice the timeline, the trend is that the game series is declining as a game.

[KiLL3r]

BF2 a game with major flaws that after a year (its not actually a year old, but meh) is worse than the first public release.

And notice the timeline, the trend is that the game series is declining as a game.

i myself have noticed almost zero bugs. only major bug i have experienced is the redbug and thats only due to playing with a capped connection. and yes there are smaller bugs but every game has bugs of somekind. maybe if your game keeps on messing up you should think about getting a new computer instead of blaming the game all the time

[Spacemonkey]

Black Heart, What are these 'major flaws' you keep talking about?

[HyperBlade]

Black Heart, What are these 'major flaws' you keep talking about?

Red/Blue Bug
Client Side Voip issues.
Disconnects
Crashes
Lag
Low FPS.
Changing Controls still fucked.
Still says random kills in game, when you haven't killed anyone.
Hit detection.
Hit Detection for AT missles.
Whole Air Balance still not right.
TV guided missle bugs.
AA missle bugs.
Commander bugs
Sqaud spawning bugs.
Patching problems.
Unbalanced Gameplay because of SF unlocks.
Interface issues.

:cussing:

[GhostOfGallipoli]

Unbalanced Gameplay because of SF unlocks.



standard weapons kick ass just fine

[KiLL3r]

:cussing:

Red/Blue Bug - Caused by bad internet connections
Client Side Voip issues. - dont you mean server
Disconnects - poor internet connection
Crashes - crappy computers not bf2's fault
Lag - poor internet connection
Low FPS. - crappy computers yet again not bf2's fault
Changing Controls still fucked. - maybe for you
Still says random kills in game, when you haven't killed anyone. -rarely happens and doesnt affect gameplay
Hit detection. - crybabys lame excuse for crappy aim
Hit Detection for AT missles. - crybabys lame excuse for crappy aim
Whole Air Balance still not right. - was always balanced but due to crybabys was changed to suit them
TV guided missle bugs. - been fixed
AA missle bugs. - poor internet connection
Commander bugs - like what
Sqaud spawning bugs. - like what
Patching problems. - crappy computers not bf2's fault
Unbalanced Gameplay because of SF unlocks. - crybaby
Interface issues. - server menu thats all



so all up the only real issues that effect gameplay are the red/blue bug WHICH only happens when you get lag (telescums fault). crashes, poor fps etc all due to having poor system setup or poor system hardware. most of the other issues you posted dont really exist or are just whiners excuses for their noob skills

[rhiza]

ok if its such a crap game and not worth the money why do you have so many hours played? obviously you still enjoy the game play

sure the bugs and shit suck but its still a fucking awesome game

i with 600 hours of entertainment from a 100 dollar game, seems like a bit of a mad deal to me

[5loth]

so all up the only real issues that effect gameplay are the red/blue bug WHICH only happens when you get lag (telescums fault). crashes, poor fps etc all due to having poor system setup or poor system hardware. most of the other issues you posted dont really exist or are just whiners excuses for their noob skills

seriously so many of your reasons are pathetic, there are still TV missile bugs (mis-fire),
AT rockets still fly straight thru some objects, there are many other
misjudgements in your 'summary'.
and in regards to the red/blue bug "WHICH only happens when you get lag".
i have a 10mbit cable connection, and ping a fairly constant 20-30. i've had the red/blue
bug both myself showing as red to others and others showing as enemies to me without
any lag whatsoever. i've personally always thought it was related to teamswapping.

and the crashes to desktop have nothing to do with system setup, my PC works
perfectly fine, only programs i have installed are windows and bf2 (except small apps ie. mIRC, msn, and couple of small ones). my PC runs very well, is high spec'ed,
yet i STILL get ctds randomly, only really since the new patch however.

[KiLL3r]

seriously so many of your reasons are pathetic, there are still TV missile bugs (mis-fire),
AT rockets still fly straight thru some objects, there are many other
misjudgements in your 'summary'.
and in regards to the red/blue bug "WHICH only happens when you get lag".
i have a 10mbit cable connection, and ping a fairly constant 20-30. i've had the red/blue
bug both myself showing as red to others and others showing as enemies to me without
any lag whatsoever. i've personally always thought it was related to teamswapping.

and the crashes to desktop have nothing to do with system setup, my PC works
perfectly fine, only programs i have installed are windows and bf2 (except small apps ie. mIRC, msn, and couple of small ones). my PC runs very well, is high spec'ed,
yet i STILL get ctds randomly, only really since the new patch however.


so despite all these bad "bugs" and "crashes" you have still clocked 651hours:59minutes:26seconds

[5loth]

i wasn't the one complaining :)

but i'm not going to deny the game is bugged,
but i agree with you that so is every other game out there,
i'm pretty sure u said something along those lines in this thread.

[Spacemonkey]

I hardley ever get ctds (only as much as I would get in any game), and never had any problems with patching.

[Bounty Hunter]

those heloplanes look shit.

those assault pods will be:

hop in, fly upto the titan, crash land and lose 20% health, that thing where you cant fire for a few seconds after jumping off abuilding, right into some fuckwit lying there with a super machine gun.

woop

[HyperBlade]

Red/Blue Bug - Caused by bad internet connections
Client Side Voip issues. - dont you mean server
Disconnects - poor internet connection
Crashes - crappy computers not bf2's fault
Lag - poor internet connection
Low FPS. - crappy computers yet again not bf2's fault
Changing Controls still fucked. - maybe for you
Still says random kills in game, when you haven't killed anyone. -rarely happens and doesnt affect gameplay
Hit detection. - crybabys lame excuse for crappy aim
Hit Detection for AT missles. - crybabys lame excuse for crappy aim
Whole Air Balance still not right. - was always balanced but due to crybabys was changed to suit them
TV guided missle bugs. - been fixed
AA missle bugs. - poor internet connection
Commander bugs - like what
Sqaud spawning bugs. - like what
Patching problems. - crappy computers not bf2's fault
Unbalanced Gameplay because of SF unlocks. - crybaby
Interface issues. - server menu thats all



so all up the only real issues that effect gameplay are the red/blue bug WHICH only happens when you get lag (telescums fault). crashes, poor fps etc all due to having poor system setup or poor system hardware. most of the other issues you posted dont really exist or are just whiners excuses for their noob skills

I pointed out the major flaws, that doesnt mean its not a good game.

Red/Blue Bug - Caused by bad internet connections < Wrong
Client Side Voip issues. - dont you mean server < No i mean Client side, some people have it others don't. Thats why i put CLIENT in it.
Disconnects - poor internet connection < Wrong
Crashes - crappy computers not bf2's fault < Wrong
Lag - poor internet connection < Wrong
Low FPS. - crappy computers yet again not bf2's fault < Wrong every new patch has dropped fps, known issue.
Changing Controls still fucked. - maybe for you < No for everyone, try and remap you mouse x aixs to the plane strafe. you cant it involves editing the .con files.
Still says random kills in game, when you haven't killed anyone. -rarely happens and doesnt affect gameplay < No but why is it happening, what else is it doing wrong behind the scenes?
Hit detection. - crybabys lame excuse for crappy aim < Get over youself, i knife someone 4 times, puffs of smoke, no kill, yeah bad aim righttttt.
Hit Detection for AT missles. - crybabys lame excuse for crappy aim < again known issue, ea are trying to fix it failing badly.
Whole Air Balance still not right. - was always balanced but due to crybabys was changed to suit them < It was not balanced, and is still not. it has gone to far the other way,.
TV guided missle bugs. - been fixed < still bugs with it.
AA missle bugs. - poor internet connection < sure whatever you say, your obviosuly the expert.
Commander bugs - like what < misaiming of resources.
Sqaud spawning bugs. - like what, < sometimes cant spawn even thought it shows you can.
Patching problems. - crappy computers not bf2's fault < Yeah 50% of players have to reinstall bf2 and then use full patch, because the incremental doesn't work. Thats not a problem?
Unbalanced Gameplay because of SF unlocks. - crybaby < Sf unlocks are awsome, "Unlocks are supposed to be different, not better" = EA F2000 is significatly better in everyway, giving flashbangs to only those who have sf is unbalanaced.
Interface issues. - server menu thats all < And the spawn selection screen, the load screen. the minimap.


I like Bf2 its got good gameplay, but don't try and say their are no issues with it.

Edit: I will add, i am a better then average player, don't try and blame it on skill when it isn't the root of the problem.

Edit2: And yes Bf2142 looks wicked, but personally EA is not going to get my money for it, not after what they have done with BF2, RE boosters, bug fixes, patches. They don't deserve my money, for the way they have treated me as a customer.

[KiLL3r]

I like Bf2 its got good gameplay, but don't try and say their are no issues with it.



i never said there are no issues i just said that they are not all caused by bf2s engine which is what your suggesting




Edit2: And yes Bf2142 looks wicked, but personally EA is not going to get my money for it, not after what they have done with BF2, RE boosters, bug fixes, patches. They don't deserve my money, for the way they have treated me as a customer.

relaesing new content, fixing issues with patches almost every month? you dont think they are trying their hardest?

[5loth]

if thats their hardest then i pity them

seriously, making people pay for a couple of new maps is just sad

[KiLL3r]

if thats their hardest then i pity them

seriously, making people pay for a couple of new maps is just sad

you think thats bad? bethesda charge $2 for a 2 pieces of horse armour that only you are ever going to see

https://obliviondownloads.com/Images/product/obliv_horsearmor_SM.jpg

[Spacemonkey]

seriously, making people pay for a couple of new maps is just sad

Why? it takes lots of hours to design and build those maps, why would EA want to go to the trouble of doing it if they will get nothing in return. They are, after all, a business.

[5loth]

Why? it takes lots of hours to design and build those maps, why would EA want to go to the trouble of doing it if they will get nothing in return. They are, after all, a business.

to make customers like me want to buy 2142

[HyperBlade]

i never said there are no issues i just said that they are not all caused by bf2s engine which is what your suggesting

All of them caused by poor coding on Dices part. And bad testing.



relaesing new content, fixing issues with patches almost every month? you dont think they are trying their hardest?

I don't care if they are trying their hardest, its obviously not good enough.

All im pointing out is their are major flaws still unfixed in the original game, and everyone expects BF2142 to be all fixed. Dice still have 2 unanouced games, once bf2142 is done, the programmers are going to move onto those games, and support for BF2142 will be like it is for BF2 now.

[HyperBlade]

you think thats bad? bethesda charge $2 for a 2 pieces of horse armour that only you are ever going to see

https://obliviondownloads.com/Images/product/obliv_horsearmor_SM.jpg

Yes its a new marketing strategy it spreads out the income futher.

Farcry, Quake4, UT and so many other games continue to offer free maps for download.

The only issue in this case is that because EA have ranked servers, the community can't use their own maps on ranked servers. So the only option you have is to buy the boosters. And whats in the boosters had been promised for the original game and wasn't their.

[Spacemonkey]

What the point of complaining, if you're not going to buy 2142, that's fine, but you don't need to go and rant about it in this thread.

[5loth]

What the point of complaining, if you're not going to buy 2142, that's fine, but you don't need to go and rant about it in this thread.

then why did you ask blackheart to list the 'major flaws' of bf2?

[HyperBlade]

What the point of complaining, if you're not going to buy 2142, that's fine, but you don't need to go and rant about it in this thread.

You asked what the major flaws are, i pointed them out...

[KiLL3r]

You asked what the major flaws are, i pointed them out...

asked blackheart

[HyperBlade]

asked blackheart

Sorry ill pm blackheart with my response next time, and get him to post it. As obviously no one else can have an opinion.

[KiLL3r]

Sorry ill pm blackheart with my response next time, and get him to post it. As obviously no one else can have an opinion.

for a admin you sure are spamming this thread with alot of flames.

[Black Heart]

Why? it takes lots of hours to design and build those maps, why would EA want to go to the trouble of doing it if they will get nothing in return. They are, after all, a business.
same reason mod creators make entire mods for free. And mod creators actually care about how the game play feels.

BF2 was greatly anticipated, EA screwed over people who wanted to play it competitively because the patches they made ruined strategies & changed gameplay so drastically it was like starting again, and forced players/clans to start from scratch in many areas.
BF2 has 6 kits, 8 vehicles ( all jeeps are basically the same) and EA still are struggling to get balance. How can you rationally expect the same game makers to provide 150,000 possibly kit combinations and have balance?
players have left BF2 in droves, thats a fact, in terms of say a comparison to CS, its hours of fun are far less to far fewer gamers.

EA have earnt my contempt, every promised 'fix' has failed to deliver to the expectation EA raised themselves, thats why i don't care at all for a new game, i have no confidence in their ability.

[HyperBlade]

for a admin you sure are spamming this thread with alot of flames.

Disucssion is all good and thats what this is, what you must relise that is people can have differing points of views.

If you make a stupid comment like "asked Blackheart" then expect to get flamed. It does not contribute to the discussion.

[Reznard]

How can you rationally expect the same game makers to provide 150,000 possible kit combinations and have balance?\

Thats an extremely good point, and one I hadn't thought about before.

[Black Heart]

Sorry ill pm blackheart with my response next time, and get him to post it. As obviously no one else can have an opinion.
lol!

Fine I'll leave you to your fanboy thread, theres obviously no room for anyones perspective that disagrees with your own on the BF2142 subject anyway, its your money waste it how you like. its too hard bothering to read posts from people on my ignore list anyway. (killer)

People are legitimately disappointed with BF2, but have continued to play it because EA have been very vocal about acknowledging problems and saying they will fix them. to date their efforts haven't actually made much progress. effort is not performance, and now with a new game on the horizon BF2 will get less effort, and after a year its not unreasoanble to assume their newest effort will be as flawed in gameplay as their previous effort.

I guess its normal that if you can't fix what you made, you make something else, and hope its not unfixable. but my $100 wont be funding such a scheme.

[KiLL3r]

Disucssion is all good and thats what this is, what you must relise that is people can have differing points of views.

If you make a stupid comment like "asked Blackheart" then expect to get flamed. It does not contribute to the discussion.

this thread was about the units in bf2142, not the reason why you and others arnt going to buy it!

[HyperBlade]

this thread was about the units in bf2142, not the reason why you and others arnt going to buy it!

Quite true, but it evolved. As things tend to do.

Back on topic then.

And the cloaking picture, am i missing something or is it just a blank wall...

What is that last pic showing? The one with dog tags and Jellybear.

[KiLL3r]

Quite true, but it evolved. As things tend to do.

Back on topic then.

And the cloaking picture, am i missing something or is it just a blank wall...

What is that last pic showing? The one with dog tags and Jellybear.


just shows how good cloaking is.

when you knife someone you get their dogtags. so you can have bragging rights etc.

[Reznard]

If you look closely I think you can see a shadow on the wall but yeah in game it would be pretty damn hard to see people.... I'm not sure if I'm too keen on this idea.

[TofuEater]

People are legitimately disappointed with BF2, but have continued to play it because EA have been very vocal about acknowledging problems

I play it because it's strangely addictive. It's frustrating, there's no doubt about that, but something keeps bringing me back - maybe i'm a moth and BF2 is my flame.

Having said that, it's the sense of "reality" that i enjoy and i just can't relate to the whole future thing in the same way. I won't buy 2145 unless there is something compelling that i'm completely missing at this point.

As an aside, EA certainly aren't the first s/w company to over promise and under-deliver, which is probably why i don't see them as quite the evil empire that others do. $100 for almost 900hours of gameplay - i'm happy enough.

[KiLL3r]

If you look closely I think you can see a shadow on the wall but yeah in game it would be pretty damn hard to see people.... I'm not sure if I'm too keen on this idea.

i cant wait for camo. i always like to play a sealthy. unfourtunately you couldnt do that at all in bf2.

this might help you hyper

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9067/169bf2142ompc052506qt1ae.gif

[GhostOfGallipoli]

i would expect it is easier to see if the person is actually moving....and that it will be for very short periods of time.



now, as far as the bitching goes;


two things piss me off about BF2 in NZ at the moment, and they both come from the community it's self;



CONSTANT MOANING. stuff is overpowered, underpowered, unbalanced, unrealistic blah blah blah. dont like it? then why are will still playing....if you aren't playing....why are you still moaning???
fact is, as i said before, the most disappointing thing about BF2 is that they got so close to a truely great game but it's let down by certian things...but in the end we are still playing almost a year after release, i haven't bought another game since BF2 came out. and if that was to be repeated with BF2142 then i'll be happy. in saying that i will be slightly gunshy and certianly woint be buyin it on release. there's no point in writing it off completely at this stage as the proof will be in the pudding.


ELITIST BULLSHIT. "i've been playing since '42 therefore all that have come after me are inferior....dont bother with a new clan as no one will respect you....I'm a clanner and as such the rules dont apply to me"
^^^I'm sure i dont need to go more in-depth with the above :disappoin

[5loth]

not to mention i don't think u can fire while cloaked

[Simon_NZ]

= i haven't bought another game since BF2 came out. and if that was to be repeated with BF2142 then i'll be happy.

But i see you playing other games on xfire ghost....

im confused, if you didn't buy them where do they come from? :sly:

[KiLL3r]

not to mention i don't think u can fire while cloaked

yes thats right. and apprently i heard thru the grapevine that if you are cloaked and you hop into a vehicle it will then become cloaked also. i think thats fake thou

but yes to fire shoot do anything you have to decloak

[GhostOfGallipoli]

But i see you playing other games on xfire ghost....

im confused, if you didn't buy them where do they come from? :sly:



naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

[Wandarah]

i really hope the next one in the franchise is cool - but i'm pretty jaded with the support and issues that bf2 had/has. so while i went and got bf2 pretty quickly, i dont think i'll be doing the same for 2142.

i mean, it sorta makes sense to wait a few months and for a few patches so it's more playable - seems to be the way with this series. that said, the units etc in the game look pretty awesome - but i dont know how cool it will be to actually play. i for one dont know if i dig on the whole futuristic thing and heaven forbid, some game modes sound almost quakish.

still waiting for FH2 here to revive my interest in the BF series. oh, that and of course getting home to little miss computer.

[Arnifix]

If you look closely I think you can see a shadow on the wall but yeah in game it would be pretty damn hard to see people.... I'm not sure if I'm too keen on this idea.

Medowned is gonna have a freaking field day knifing the fuck out of everything. We'll have to drag him away from the mechs as he knifes their ankles in his insane stupor.

[Reznard]

i really hope the next one in the franchise is cool - but i'm pretty jaded with the support and issues that bf2 had/has. so while i went and got bf2 pretty quickly, i dont think i'll be doing the same for 2142.

i mean, it sorta makes sense to wait a few months and for a few patches so it's more playable - seems to be the way with this series. that said, the units etc in the game look pretty awesome - but i dont know how cool it will be to actually play. i for one dont know if i dig on the whole futuristic thing and heaven forbid, some game modes sound almost quakish.

still waiting for FH2 here to revive my interest in the BF series. oh, that and of course getting home to little miss computer.

:eek: .... hes alive.




Medowned is gonna have a freaking field day knifing the fuck out of everything. We'll have to drag him away from the mechs as he knifes their ankles in his insane stupor.

Hahaha I've just got an image in my head of meadowned foaming at the mouth after knifing a couple of ppl then lunging at a mech.

[HyperBlade]

Is the commander going to be changed, or stay like bf2? will he pick up cloaked units?

[GhostOfGallipoli]

from what i can gather the commander controls that big titan thing, moving it around and such

[KiLL3r]

from what i can gather the commander controls that big titan thing, moving it around and such

theres one bad thing about that stratergy


http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6478/noobbf2commander9pf.jpg

[GhostOfGallipoli]

killer.....that is BY FAR, the funniest thing you have ever posted

[HyperBlade]

killer.....that is BY FAR, the funniest thing you have ever posted

Absoutly agree, nice one killer :D