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swindle
25th August 2011, 11:05 AM
One very interesting, and potentially controversial statement that Kertz made was, “there are no 1 hit body kills with sniper rifles. Pull your side arm or use a semi auto for fast follow up hits.” Do you Battlefield fans agree with this? Is it unrealistic, or does it better serve the gamepley?

Source

http://mp1st.com/2011/08/22/bf3-no-one-hit-body-kills-with-snipers-more-weapon-recoil-and-more-dice-talks-guns/ (http://mp1st.com/2011/08/22/bf3-no-one-hit-body-kills-with-snipers-more-weapon-recoil-and-more-dice-talks-guns/)

BushySB
25th August 2011, 11:09 AM
Same as BC2

swindle
25th August 2011, 11:10 AM
I will forever only play HC mode.

More fun with no HUD imo.

Emrico1
25th August 2011, 11:11 AM
Meh, one body shot kills with the sniper just encourage sniper bads, headshot or gtfo. Better for gameplay.

Dr Woomanchu
25th August 2011, 11:18 AM
Wait for all the camper types to want a HC mode, so they can one shot from wherever they're cowering.

Carkus
25th August 2011, 11:22 AM
Yep far too many snipers in BC2 as it is. Having one shot kill would just encourage more, which we don't need. They'll also probably have claymores so if they had one shot kills as well then it would be a pretty bs class as they could just sit back and one shot kill in some cunty spot and not have to worry about getting stabbed in the back.

That might be realistic, but i'd rather it be a little more balanced and fair.

swindle
25th August 2011, 11:24 AM
Bullet drop sounds like a factor that will throw all these "snipers" (hang on a sec, i can't help but roll on the floor crying in laughter at the idea that BC2 guys who use a bolt action consider themselves snipers) a curve ball from hell.

Massive distances with bullet drop will be welcome change from BC2.

(Aware BC2 has "bullet drop" also)

Munchie
25th August 2011, 11:26 AM
I think spot on headshot should be 1HK... but the rest, good job camping snipers can gtfo =D

EnjoyTheSauce
25th August 2011, 11:47 AM
Meh, one body shot kills with the sniper just encourage sniper bads, headshot or gtfo. Better for gameplay.

Agree with this completely



That might be realistic, but i'd rather it be a little more balanced and fair.
No point is using realism as a for or against argument when it comes to BF3. By no means is this a realism shooter, despite what devs and reviewers might say.

oefox
25th August 2011, 12:06 PM
I think i will like the balance better but one thing that annoyed me was that weapon handling wasn't really handled very realistically with snipers, I think the time to aim is too quick, pistols, smg's, and rifles like the AUG and F2000 should be quick to aim whilst the others longer. I felt the LMG's were a good balance whilst sniper rifles should not be accurate from hip firing and the scoping should take longer, esp. the "not so light" M95.

Mayhem_Lee
25th August 2011, 12:06 PM
Bullet drop sounds like a factor that will throw all these "snipers" (hang on a sec, i can't help but roll on the floor crying in laughter at the idea that BC2 guys who use a bolt action consider themselves snipers) a curve ball from hell.

Massive distances with bullet drop will be welcome change from BC2.

(Aware BC2 has "bullet drop" also)

Ahhh back to real guns and gameplay makes sense being BF3 the follow on from BF2142

Mayhem_Lee
25th August 2011, 12:07 PM
I think i will like the balance better but one thing that annoyed me was that weapon handling wasn't really handled very realistically with snipers, I think the time to aim is too quick, pistols, smg's, and rifles like the AUG and F2000 should be quick to aim whilst the others longer. I felt the LMG's were a good balance whilst sniper rifles should not be accurate from hip firing and the scoping should take longer, esp. the "not so light" M95.

There is a differnce between the M24 GOL etc vs the M95 it takes longer to bring up and scope

DeeUnit
25th August 2011, 01:17 PM
This has been around for a while.


It will be like bf2, one hit anywhere in body leaves you with the equivalent of 2 bars of health, pistol shot to finish. BC2 was one hit kill bodyshot with the correct gun and perks.

Bell
25th August 2011, 01:21 PM
no brainer imo

private_hell
25th August 2011, 01:25 PM
no brainer imo

seems to be a lot of people that suffer from this unfortunately

BushySB
25th August 2011, 01:34 PM
This has been around for a while.
BC2 was one hit kill bodyshot with the correct gun and perks.

think its like 10 meters without the damage upgrade and 15 with it

oefox
25th August 2011, 01:35 PM
There is a differnce between the M24 GOL etc vs the M95 it takes longer to bring up and scope

Yes, but they're still deadly accurate from hip fire which is where it's crap; hip firing a sniper rifle should be wildly innacurate

Carkus
25th August 2011, 01:44 PM
Agree with this completely


No point is using realism as a for or against argument when it comes to BF3. By no means is this a realism shooter, despite what devs and reviewers might say.

No shit, i've been playing BF since 1942 ... quite aware of that. What i was meaning, is that yes it may be more realistic to have like an m95 kill with one shot but that doesn't mean it's better.

Dr Woomanchu
25th August 2011, 01:53 PM
If you want realism, then once you are killed you should never be able to play the game again.

Carkus
25th August 2011, 02:00 PM
If you want realism, then once you are killed you should never be able to play the game again.

LOL best $89 ever spent. Maybe they could implement like what BIS did in Operation Flashpoint where when you died you spawned as a Seagull and flew around. Hahaha that was so random.

Bell
25th August 2011, 02:07 PM
ArmaII still does that heh

swindle
25th August 2011, 02:17 PM
Where the fak is Arma III?

mattnz
25th August 2011, 02:54 PM
Should make it so you can't roam around a house with your 1.5m long sniper rifle out as well, sort of crysis style.

Cdr
25th August 2011, 04:10 PM
What they really need to do is stick in the RAF Pilot Aptitude tests before you're allowed to fly.

mycoolcar
25th August 2011, 04:36 PM
Where the fak is Arma III?
They are still making it, whats the problem? http://www.arma3.com/

Mr_St1nky
25th August 2011, 05:06 PM
What they really need to do is stick in the RAF Pilot Aptitude tests before you're allowed to fly.

I still think that America's Army had such a good idea with their SP training sessions. So for BF3, having to pass an aptitude test before you're allowed to jump in a jet/tank etc

pyro
25th August 2011, 05:14 PM
I still think that America's Army had such a good idea with their SP training sessions. So for BF3, having to pass an aptitude test before you're allowed to jump in a jet/tank etc

I had totally forgotten about the AA training, must admit it was a great tool to start off with. Would be great to have it implemented for jets/helis in bf3, the amount of times you see someone jump in one to instantly crash it, then come back and repeat it over and over was a joke.

hoodieblanket
25th August 2011, 05:16 PM
I had totally forgotten about the AA training, must admit it was a great tool to start off with. Would be great to have it implemented for jets/helis in bf3, the amount of times you see someone jump in one to instantly crash it, then come back and repeat it over and over was a joke.

it was the only way to learn. :P

pyro
25th August 2011, 05:43 PM
it was the only way to learn. :P

SP, low pop servers

Machpants
25th August 2011, 07:49 PM
What they really need to do is stick in the RAF Pilot Aptitude tests before you're allowed to fly.
that's me ground pounding then

[∞]MadMike
25th August 2011, 08:24 PM
SP, low pop servers

Or of coarse you could take the high and might and go to a high skill server not full of people trying to get there feet

mattnz
25th August 2011, 09:06 PM
Just to piss all of them off?

GhostOfGallipoli
25th August 2011, 10:53 PM
What they really need to do is stick in the RAF Pilot Aptitude tests before you're allowed to fly.


riding a bicycle from a pub back to base?

brucewillis2
26th August 2011, 01:45 AM
I will forever only play HC mode.

More fun with no HUD imo.

hardcore mode? come on hardcore is for people that enjoy spammy it up and are so shit at being a sniper they can't get headshots. hardcore is for babies with no skill.

Mr_St1nky
26th August 2011, 09:56 AM
speaking of hardcore bruce...you still want to have a gander at that cunting artbook?

=C=
26th August 2011, 01:19 PM
1 hit from the 50.cal sniper rifle or MG gun! I also want to see gaping holes and limbs fly off. Not to mention leave said holes in walls and facades!

winter
26th August 2011, 02:00 PM
I also want to see gaping holes and limbs fly off.

That would be interesting in a battlefield game. Loss of limbs would be pretty gory though, funny with the occasional ragdoll, but gory.

Bell
26th August 2011, 02:03 PM
1 hit from the 50.cal sniper rifle or MG gun! I also want to see gaping holes and limbs fly off. Not to mention leave said holes in walls and facades!

This isn't the video game you are looking for.

The Demon Lord
26th August 2011, 02:41 PM
I like 1 hit sniper body kills - it makes playing Assault sniper much more fun - running round with the M95 with a 4x scope using it like a shotgun = lols!

Dr Woomanchu
26th August 2011, 02:47 PM
I platted all the sniper rifles using them with red dot. With the bolt actions, it's basically a nubs version of slug shottie.

swindle
26th August 2011, 04:08 PM
hardcore mode? come on hardcore is for people that enjoy spammy it up and are so shit at being a sniper they can't get headshots. hardcore is for babies with no skill.

LOLwut

I don't spam. I use nothing but the M14 mod0. How is that spammy?

No, i just enjoy having people die when i shoot them twice. Anymore then that is just stupid.

mattnz
26th August 2011, 04:21 PM
Yeps, that's why there are heaps of HC competitions.

winter
26th August 2011, 04:29 PM
I enjoy both modes, but there should never be a HC competition, that'd be lame as all hell.

swindle
26th August 2011, 04:57 PM
Yeps, that's why there are heaps of HC competitions.

bfbc2compslolololwhogives2fuckstbh

Obble
26th August 2011, 05:03 PM
Implying Swindle is good enough to even scrim peggle.

Dr Woomanchu
26th August 2011, 05:07 PM
Snapalicious!!!

swindle
26th August 2011, 05:12 PM
http://gamesprays.com/files/resource_media/preview/forever-alone-face-transparent-5407_preview.png

winter
26th August 2011, 05:13 PM
1v1 HC Peggle extreme peg party match

Speakman
26th August 2011, 05:18 PM
i'm down

brucewillis2
26th August 2011, 10:02 PM
LOLwut

I don't spam. I use nothing but the M14 mod0. How is that spammy?

No, i just enjoy having people die when i shoot them twice. Anymore then that is just stupid.

I don't care what gun you use, sure the m14 might not be spammy but you may be 1 in 100 that doesn't play HC for the easy kills (or maybe you are), I'm just saying HC is a spammy piece of shit, and its based on a people running around camping for easy kills or hitting red triangles half way across the map. If you want skill then don't play hardcore because that way you at least need to track a target and not hope for a lucky couple of shots.

hardcore is for kids. I'm just happy that spammy shithouse mode isn't what they use in comp matches.

just saying.

hoodieblanket
26th August 2011, 10:18 PM
sounds like you got a chip on your shoulder. Did HC flip you the bird and shit in your cereal? :D

konvik
26th August 2011, 10:40 PM
TBH HC Mode or Not.. I don't care less which mode I play. I like HC Because it makes it harder to trackback to said campers etc, you get hitmarkers so you have to literally hunt them, rather than get a killcam and follow where they were... Both modes bring a challenge, just in different ways. KD Ratio or not. I personally don't care too much. Games a game yo

Munchie
26th August 2011, 10:48 PM
HC without camping snipers would be better I feel, actually any mode without camping snipers would be paradise.

brucewillis2
26th August 2011, 10:49 PM
sounds like you got a chip on your shoulder. Did HC flip you the bird and $#@! in your cereal? :D

and you are? blanketboy? what the fu*k are you talking about, flipping the bird and cereal? you're the perfect person that loves the easy kills in hardcore. play normal mode and see how you do. You're probably one of these guys that can't get easy kills and switch to an hardcore server and spam it up.

seriously though hardcore is for chumps. I laugh at people that think its the skill mode, which it isn't

hoodieblanket
26th August 2011, 11:34 PM
wooow.. im sorry that sounded so confrontational but it was merely a jest at your exaggerated anger towards HC. Again, apologies.

swindle
27th August 2011, 11:00 AM
I don't care what gun you use, sure the m14 might not be spammy but you may be 1 in 100 that doesn't play HC for the easy kills (or maybe you are), I'm just saying HC is a spammy piece of shit, and its based on a people running around camping for easy kills or hitting red triangles half way across the map. If you want skill then don't play hardcore because that way you at least need to track a target and not hope for a lucky couple of shots.

hardcore is for kids. I'm just happy that spammy shithouse mode isn't what they use in comp matches.

just saying.

Running around camping is an oxymoron. It makes no sense.

There are no 3D markers (little red triangles) in a proper HC server. So i have no idea what you're talking about there.

Sounds to me like you can't deal with the mode, because you don't have the assists you need. So you say that the mode you play is pro as becasue it requires more shots to kill someone, when in reality you have to much of a hard time in a mode with no HUD/3D spotting.

You can't spam at red triangles in HC, there are none. You can in the regular mode. If thats something you obviously complain about then one would have assumed HC mode would have been a mode you would enjoy.

mattnz
27th August 2011, 12:09 PM
No 3D spotting in scrims m80, and bruce seems to do just fine.

GhostOfGallipoli
27th August 2011, 12:10 PM
Running around camping is an oxymoron. It makes no sense.

There are no 3D markers (little red triangles) in a proper HC server. So i have no idea what you're talking about there.

Sounds to me like you can't deal with the mode, because you don't have the assists you need. So you say that the mode you play is pro as becasue it requires more shots to kill someone, when in reality you have to much of a hard time in a mode with no HUD/3D spotting.

You can't spam at red triangles in HC, there are none. You can in the regular mode. If thats something you obviously complain about then one would have assumed HC mode would have been a mode you would enjoy.


critical hit

swindle
27th August 2011, 12:22 PM
No 3D spotting in scrims m80, and bruce seems to do just fine.

Never said he didn't?

But anyway

http://iforce.co.nz/i/tyelu415.kbv.jpg (http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=tyelu415.kbv.jpg)

RightHandOnly
27th August 2011, 12:28 PM
HC without camping snipers would be better I feel, actually any mode without camping snipers would be paradise.

Cough * says person who stands in window waiting for enemy to run past with assualt rifle*...is that not camping when done for whole round....lol

(luv u munchie)....lol

Dr Woomanchu
27th August 2011, 01:24 PM
Munchie doesn't camp, she just finds good spots to wait for people to come to her or the flag. It's a different thing entirely :/

Matt
27th August 2011, 01:37 PM
Who cares about camping, would you rather they uncap rape you when capped out?

Just get a squad member who has teh wookieballs and you are sorted

konvik
27th August 2011, 01:55 PM
Running around camping is an oxymoron. It makes no sense.

There are no 3D markers (little red triangles) in a proper HC server. So i have no idea what you're talking about there.

Sounds to me like you can't deal with the mode, because you don't have the assists you need. So you say that the mode you play is pro as becasue it requires more shots to kill someone, when in reality you have to much of a hard time in a mode with no HUD/3D spotting.

You can't spam at red triangles in HC, there are none. You can in the regular mode. If thats something you obviously complain about then one would have assumed HC mode would have been a mode you would enjoy.

+1 ZANG

Munchie
27th August 2011, 02:09 PM
Hey hey hey! I don't camp and I have gameplay to prove it :P I'm an opportunist and know when people are coming XD

Obble
27th August 2011, 02:13 PM
Munchie doesn't camp, she's dead before she even gets a chance to find a spot. :hopelessness:

Munchie
27th August 2011, 02:20 PM
>.>

5tacK
27th August 2011, 02:30 PM
Haha, hitting the top shelf again Bruce?

Emrico1
27th August 2011, 03:01 PM
We need you. Hell, I need you. I'm a mess without ya. I miss you so damn much. I miss being with you. I miss being near you! I miss your laugh! I miss – I miss your scent. I miss your musk. When this all gets sorted out, I think you and me should get an apartment together.

[∞]MadMike
27th August 2011, 03:04 PM
^^ one seriously sick puppy right there :D

Munchie
27th August 2011, 04:07 PM
Hahaa

Spork
27th August 2011, 04:18 PM
Sounds like Emrico is trapped in a glass cage of emotion.

Growler
27th August 2011, 04:24 PM
Em, I told you we can move in together. But you're gonna be the girl.

O-L-W-A-G
27th August 2011, 04:34 PM
BOT: Using the SRs as shottys in BC2 made sure you snapped to the enemy first. Or does the hitreg make this training useless?

Hessian Blitz
27th August 2011, 06:54 PM
The soldier as a peace maker in this situation pulls’ Hoodie and Brucewillis2 together in a big bear hug with an arm around each of their shoulders.

Guys can’t we just get along, agree to disagree. He continues on regarding that we are all part of the BF brotherhood, making love not war, etc etc

All the while Fuzzel’s is pick pocketing them both, bending the firing pins in all their guns, removing the fuses from grenades and pissing in their medic packs.

I will not mention where he did his #2‘s as it seems to be a sensitive issue, which it is. No one likes to go too grab out a full magazine only to come out with a handful of fresh squirrel shit.

The soldier ends his talk by asking them to shake hands and to just to enjoy the next map.

On a more serious note I will admit I’m sniping on HC to get my headshot badge and using mortar on standard to get that badge. ( Due to people spotting )
After that is the F2000 platinum quest. If that makes me a bad boy I’ll take my beating like a man.

Fuzzel’s appears with dominatrix gear and ride crop.

Emrico1
27th August 2011, 08:24 PM
I think my post made more sense tbh

mattnz
27th August 2011, 08:37 PM
Well yours had a little thing called 'context', tbf.

=C=
27th August 2011, 09:06 PM
Running around camping is an oxymoron. It makes no sense.

There are no 3D markers (little red triangles) in a proper HC server. So i have no idea what you're talking about there.

Sounds to me like you can't deal with the mode, because you don't have the assists you need. So you say that the mode you play is pro as becasue it requires more shots to kill someone, when in reality you have to much of a hard time in a mode with no HUD/3D spotting.

You can't spam at red triangles in HC, there are none. You can in the regular mode. If thats something you obviously complain about then one would have assumed HC mode would have been a mode you would enjoy.

5955

I can't remember the name of the map before it changed as per screenie.
Had another at 260~ was trying for the 300 kill barrier but didn't succeed because my team was useless enough that couldn't hold a flag. Kept running between all 3 ;/

Ohh, and bruce thats a front line assault sniper ;)

Machpants
28th August 2011, 02:19 AM
^ hax0r :p

swindle
28th August 2011, 11:03 AM
Lol

http://www.g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/48696/battlefield-3/articles/75372/battlefield-3-gamescom-2011-hands-on-preview-we-save-you-a-nine-hour-wait/?cmpid=sn-110418-facebook&ref=nf


Battlefield 3 already has plenty of hardcore fans, and the game hasn't even come out yet. At E3 earlier this year, lines stretched as long as four hours to get some brief hands-on time with the multiplayer. However, that's nothing compared to gamescom, which is open to the general public, where lines were up to nine hours long in order to play the game for about 15 minutes. Now that, my friends, is ridiculous. But not nearly as ridiculous as one of the guys I met who waited in line for hours to be one of the first in the gamescom doors on Friday, where he ran directly to BF3, played it, and then left and got right back into an eight hour line for the same game. That's an insane level of dedication for a game that comes out in the couple of months.

I'll recreate the experience for you right here, as we also had to venture down to the show floor at gamescom to get our Battlefield on. First, you had to sit through a 15 minute presentation that was entirely in German, which you can't really fault EA for since the conference takes place in Germany. And, as a victim of the American education system, I don't speak German. But, I was sort of able to pull from context and understand most of the video. Which seemed to be "Find the enemy and kill them."
There were brief rundowns of the class changes, which we detailed in our E3 Battlefield 3 hands-on preview, and I made the decision there and then to be the Assault class, now armed with a defibrillator so I could bring my downed buddies back to life, while charging forward and taking care of enemy soldiers. At least, that was my noble idea. Things didn't exactly go according to plan, which ended up costing me dearly.
As we finished up the film and filed into the gaming area (all on PCs, by the way), I studied the game card and wished fervently for a gamepad, which is how I experience things on the PC back at E3. But, I had to get used to the mouse and keyboard all over again at some point, and this seemed as good a time as any to dive back in. Unfortunately, the instruction card was in German as well, so strike two for our public schools. "Was ist eine button for to make kill guy?" doesn't really cut it, internationally.

We spawned onto the enormous 64 player Caspian Border map, with all of us splitting into one of two 32 player teams. As with any multiplayer match of Battlefield, everyone immediately scrambles for the airborne vehicles, and the hotly contested jet usually lasted about .025 milliseconds on the landing strip before someone jumped in it and zoomed into the skies above. While this map is extremely large, it still seems as though it's not entirely jet-friendly. ZOOM, turn around, ZOOM turn around. ZOOM, turn around, and so on. As much as I wanted to get into a jet to try this out, I gritted my teeth and climbed into a tank, which actually turned out to be a good decision.
I lasted about ten minutes inside that tank, taking occasional damage while being patched up by passing Engineers, and I managed to take out 12 enemy soldiers while taking and re-taking three different bases. But finally I heard the familiar WHOOP, WHOOP which translates to "Your tank is about to blow up, idiot" and I had to bail. Once I was on foot, I kept getting owned by enemy snipers. As in seriously owned. The game will totally rub that in your face by zooming off to the smug, sunglass-ed face of the soldier who did it, and you couldn't help but hate them.
Once the match was over (we lost), I had a strong desire to step back through and play it again, but the last thing I wanted to do was displace someone that had waited for nine hours to get in here and experience the game. Battlefield 3 stands as one of the most graphically intense, realistic shooters out there, and playing 32 players vs. another 32 provides an unequaled gaming experience. If you can manage to round up 31 friends to go online with you, you're going to have a complete blast once you figure out who's in command. And even if you play solo, you're going to wish BF3 was permanently installed in your game system.
(http://www.g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/48696/battlefield-3/articles/75372/battlefield-3-gamescom-2011-hands-on-preview-we-save-you-a-nine-hour-wait/?cmpid=sn-110418-facebook&ref=nf)

Mayhem_Lee
28th August 2011, 12:40 PM
mmmmm so caspian border isint big enough for jets? Nice read though bro cheers for posting

Munchie
28th August 2011, 01:12 PM
Remember it's not the size, it's how you use it :P

hoodieblanket
28th August 2011, 02:02 PM
thats what she said

mycoolcar
28th August 2011, 02:25 PM
Hows this for a quote from that article.


Battlefield 3 stands as one of the most graphically intense, realistic shooters out there

Realistic. Yeah right.

=C=
28th August 2011, 02:43 PM
Hows this for a quote from that article.



Realistic. Yeah right.

There are many aspects of BF3 that are realistic and can be called one of the most realistic shooters out there, not to mention graphically intensive.

Think about it for a second and you will realize this on your own, rather than generalize and try to group all aspects of the game and check/cross out which are realistic and are not, before you could call it "one of the most realistic shooters out there". You don't need the game to be 100% realistic in all aspects for it to be one. CS is another "one of the most realistic games out there", but does it compare to a military sim like AA or Arma? :)

BF3 is not a military sim and isn't being passed on as one. There's a difference.

swindle
28th August 2011, 03:18 PM
Hows this for a quote from that article.



Realistic. Yeah right.

Compared to COD i suppose?

mycoolcar
28th August 2011, 04:09 PM
There are many aspects of BF3 that are realistic and can be called one of the most realistic shooters out there, not to mention graphically intensive.

I think Crysis is more realistic.

O-L-W-A-G
28th August 2011, 04:17 PM
I think Crysis 2 is more buggy.

Fixed

swindle
28th August 2011, 04:23 PM
Crysis 2 was fucking awesome yo.

Tell you what, that was the most fun i'd ever had in a single player game for a long long time.

mycoolcar
28th August 2011, 04:46 PM
Crysis 2 was $#@!ing awesome yo.

Same here. A few people didn't like it as they graphics weren't as far out super awesome high polys like the first one, but IMO it was a good shooter. What I would have hoped Duke Nukem would be.

swindle
28th August 2011, 05:27 PM
Same here. A few people didn't like it as they graphics weren't as far out super awesome high polys like the first one, but IMO it was a good shooter. What I would have hoped Duke Nukem would be.

Ain't that the truth.

Tbh i thought it was more enjoyable visually then the first. People scorn me for such a comment, however I hold fast.

The guns where epic fun.

Emrico1
28th August 2011, 06:25 PM
NO, it's not OK to say you like something, your opinon is not valid, do not come here and make such sweeping fallacies.

/sarcasm

I liked it too.

swindle
28th August 2011, 06:46 PM
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Suvy
29th September 2011, 02:48 PM
Yep far too many snipers in BC2 as it is. Having one shot kill would just encourage more, which we don't need. They'll also probably have claymores so if they had one shot kills as well then it would be a pretty bs class as they could just sit back and one shot kill in some $#@!y spot and not have to worry about getting stabbed in the back.

That might be realistic, but i'd rather it be a little more balanced and fair.

In some BC2 Servers they had a sniper cap, having a Sniper cap on servers will solve the influx of snipers. in the beta so far the amount of snipers is slowly going up, look at the horizon and all you see is the flashs of sniper scopes lol. :(

Suvy
29th September 2011, 02:50 PM
HC one shot sniper kills is realistic there is no way it shold be taken out of the game, limiting the snipers in a server will make the game more realistic aswell as in a army half the force isnt snipers lol!

Mayhem_Lee
29th September 2011, 02:53 PM
Its a game harden up and what if people want to use the recon class without sniper rifles? they have squad spawn becons and the ability to pick off support people sitting behind cover with lmg's and bipods its an online game it all comes down to how people are going to play it. aka cg whores (growler) lol

Growler
29th September 2011, 02:56 PM
Mayhem_Lee;1428344']aka cg whores (growler) lol

I cried all night with no CG..... I hope I unlock something that will do the job as the SMAW dont cut it

Mayhem_Lee
29th September 2011, 02:57 PM
I cried all night with no CG..... I hope I unlock something that will do the job as the SMAW dont cut it


Go support unlock claymores sit on a supply pack and spam them in doorway? rage = profit

Growler
29th September 2011, 02:59 PM
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BeNZene
29th September 2011, 04:06 PM
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oefox
29th September 2011, 04:13 PM
HC one shot sniper kills is realistic there is no way it shold be taken out of the game, limiting the snipers in a server will make the game more realistic aswell as in a army half the force isnt snipers lol!
Realistically speaking, a headshot with any gun in the game would mean a kill IRL, so no this game is not realistic...said as I run through an SMG unloading a magazine into me to facestab ftk

pablo d
29th September 2011, 04:30 PM
i'd like to see limb shots actually de-limb people

then you have to hobble around on your stubs, thumping people with what used to be your forearms

Dr Woomanchu
29th September 2011, 04:38 PM
SoF years ago

oefox
29th September 2011, 04:39 PM
It's just a flesh wound...i'll bite your head off

Shadow|NZ
29th September 2011, 04:51 PM
i reckon only head shot should be 1shot kill

Mayhem_Lee
29th September 2011, 04:54 PM
i reckon only head shot should be 1shot kill
so ill just shoot you in the thigh with a .50cal?

Dr Woomanchu
29th September 2011, 05:20 PM
Fuckin "reality" conversations about online games get my goat. If you want fuckin reality look at Leon Smith, a NZSAS hero in Afghanistan who died doing doing his duty, shot in the head. THAT's reality.

The only considerations as to how and when one player beats another in a computer game are whatever the programmers decide to code in to it. Reality has nothing to fuckin do with it at all. If there was any reality in the game, then I'd be able to go to the next little sniper fag who whined about whether his rifle is "real" enough and shove it up his arse.

/end rant

5loth
29th September 2011, 06:52 PM
$#@!in "reality" conversations about online games get my goat. If you want $#@!in reality look at Leon Smith, a NZSAS hero in Afghanistan who died doing doing his duty, shot in the head. THAT's reality.

The only considerations as to how and when one player beats another in a computer game are whatever the programmers decide to code in to it. Reality has nothing to $#@!in do with it at all. If there was any reality in the game, then I'd be able to go to the next little sniper fag who whined about whether his rifle is "real" enough and shove it up his arse.

/end rant

If you could flap your arms in BF3 and fly it would be quite stupid.

Dr Woomanchu
29th September 2011, 06:54 PM
If you could flap your arms in BF3 and fly it would be quite stupid.

That would depend on how they integrated it into the game. You can already sprint indefinitely without getting at all tired. Is that any less stupid

5loth
29th September 2011, 06:55 PM
I think infinite sprint is ridiculous and I hope they change it :P

Munchie
29th September 2011, 06:57 PM
Sniper headshot should be a 1 hit kill.

Dr Woomanchu
29th September 2011, 06:58 PM
I agree with you on unlimited sprint, but the ultimate "stupidity" will always be respawn. As long as death is temporary anything in the game is fantasy.

Menial
29th September 2011, 07:05 PM
yeah okay Woohoo, it is just a game, we know that. Is dying once per cd key going far enough for you? How about you die irl when your av dies?

Miserable cunt.

Obble
29th September 2011, 07:16 PM
Sniper headshot should be a 1 hit kill.

Women shouldn't be allowed to play, it's not realistic, everyone knows women can't shoot and cook at the same time.

Dr Woomanchu
29th September 2011, 07:39 PM
yeah okay Woohoo, it is just a game, we know that. Is dying once per cd key going far enough for you? How about you die irl when your av dies?

Miserable cunt.

That would be fine for the bitches who moan their sniper rifle isn't realistic enough. Me I know it's a fantasy and will happily stab you inna face every time I see you.

deanox
29th September 2011, 07:43 PM
:beaten:

=C=
29th September 2011, 08:02 PM
i'd like to see limb shots actually de-limb people

then you have to hobble around on your stubs, thumping people with what used to be your forearms

Yea I want limbs flying off too. God I loved that back in 95~ playing QWTF :D
With today's graphics, game engines and rag dalls flying libs would be kick ass and take the game to the next "realism and fun" level...

Grenades go off next to you. Flying limbs in a realistic "directional manner", same for getting shots.
Limbs flying, and/or flesh wounds that realistically slow you down or make you move in a manner as you really would have in RL.


lol @ wooohoooo, stop QQ'ing ;P
You know you'd love it and the best thing about it (you can re-spawn) :P

Menial
30th September 2011, 07:06 AM
That would be fine for the $#@!es who moan their sniper rifle isn't realistic enough. Me I know it's a fantasy and will happily stab you inna face every time I see you.



Mmmm kinky

Munchie
30th September 2011, 10:46 AM
Women shouldn't be allowed to play, it's not realistic, everyone knows women can't shoot and cook at the same time.

It's called prep cooking :P I make sure qu1cks has all his food and drink ready before I sit down and kill KILL KILL!!

Growler
30th September 2011, 10:56 AM
you have a computer in the kitchen?

dirtyape
30th September 2011, 11:07 AM
That would be fine for the bitches who moan their sniper rifle isn't realistic enough. Me I know it's a fantasy and will happily stab you inna face every time I see you.
Kind of agree. If it was realistic a medic wouldn't be able to resurrect people with his magic defibrillator. It is a game, but I would prefer it if it was a game where you didn't have to full people with lead like quake in order for them to die. I don't like having "health shields" so much. But as long as there is hardcore I'm happy, the standard mode will always be an arcade mode to me.

Munchie
30th September 2011, 11:11 AM
In my old apartment the computer was in the kitchen since it was openview :P But my new house it is not.

Mayhem_Lee
30th September 2011, 11:12 AM
Kind of agree. If it was realistic a medic wouldn't be able to resurrect people with his magic defibrillator. It is a game, but I would prefer it if it was a game where you didn't have to full people with lead like quake in order for them to die. I don't like having "health shields" so much. But as long as there is hardcore I'm happy, the standard mode will always be an arcade mode to me.

But you wont be playing the game due to it requires origin

Growler
30th September 2011, 11:16 AM
you played beta yet ape?

bullet damage is insane compared to BC2. Current damage, and with the new "spotting" is just like BC2 HC imo.

Spotting is in no way spray and get your KDR up. If you can't see them or have LOS to em, you dont get the teeny tiny triangle on em, and as soon as you stop drop n roll behind cover your enemy loooooooooses you anyway.

there is alot of complaints about damage being too much on the EA forums. I quite like it, no longer a game of glitch hit boxes, comes down to speed & accuracy.

Munchie
30th September 2011, 01:30 PM
Because noobs want to run and gun. DICE will end up changing the damage to cater for the retards, you will see.

Hessian Blitz
30th September 2011, 01:57 PM
It's a GAME and has nothing to do with real life. Any whingers should be forced to play DOOM for an hour to be re-educated on how far GAMING has come.

Infinite run and reload. At the range for giggles we would run 100m then go prone and shoot. After a few times you cannot hit shit your breathing is too laboured.

dirtyape
30th September 2011, 01:58 PM
Mayhem_Lee;1428859']But you wont be playing the game due to it requires origin
A fool presumes too much.

Just because you cannot perceive a way to play BF3 in a secure fashion does not mean that such a way does not exist. I certainly does not prevent me from doing so.


you played beta yet ape?

bullet damage is insane compared to BC2. Current damage, and with the new "spotting" is just like BC2 HC imo.

Spotting is in no way spray and get your KDR up. If you can't see them or have LOS to em, you dont get the teeny tiny triangle on em, and as soon as you stop drop n roll behind cover your enemy loooooooooses you anyway.

there is alot of complaints about damage being too much on the EA forums. I quite like it, no longer a game of glitch hit boxes, comes down to speed & accuracy.
No i haven't bothered to build a sandbox yet, so haven't installed origin or signed up. I'll probably not bother as my CBF is quite high on this one atm, so I'll probably just wait for the release.

I usually play BC2 HC anyway so I should be quite used to it, I much prefer that style of play as the arcade mode of BC2 always seemed a bit quakelike and spammy. But then I still haven't really played the game very much. I would still hope the final BF3 also has a HC mode which makes people even more realistically fragile. I would be disappointed if the barrett did not produce pink mist.

pyro
30th September 2011, 01:59 PM
I think at range the damage is fine, its just up close you stand no chance at all if you are spotted first. By the time you hear the sound of firing or get hit by the first round you are dead with no time to react.

Dr Woomanchu
30th September 2011, 02:02 PM
Because noobs want to run and gun. DICE will end up changing the damage to cater for the retards, you will see.

And I'd say because noobs want to camp and harvest eh munchie ;)

Or it could just be that different players have different styles and wants from a game.

Growler
30th September 2011, 02:08 PM
You can run and gun, if you have people doing it with you, there just aint as many rambo moments anymore.

The Demon Lord
30th September 2011, 02:37 PM
It's a GAME and has nothing to do with real life. Any whingers should be forced to play DOOM for an hour to be re-educated on how far GAMING has come.

Infinite run and reload. At the range for giggles we would run 100m then go prone and shoot. After a few times you cannot hit $#@! your breathing is too laboured.

hey! Doom is still epic fun to play - I lubs my BFG 9000

Dr Woomanchu
30th September 2011, 02:59 PM
One of my first memories of online gaming awesome was playing 8 player doom via BBS and discovering the silent BFG :D

aLi3nZ
30th September 2011, 03:17 PM
You can run and gun, if you have people doing it with you, there just aint as many rambo moments anymore.We'll see about that.

O-L-W-A-G
30th September 2011, 07:02 PM
I think at range the damage is fine, its just up close you stand no chance at all if you are spotted first. By the time you hear the sound of firing or get hit by the first round you are dead with no time to react.
Unless there is crazy high dpi and ninja like reflexes involved

Emrico1
30th September 2011, 07:07 PM
We'll see about that.

You're going to love this shit.

SheepShagger556
30th September 2011, 07:20 PM
I think at range the damage is fine, its just up close you stand no chance at all if you are spotted first. By the time you hear the sound of firing or get hit by the first round you are dead with no time to react.There is nothing wrong with that.

It's your fault he got so close and its his advantage that he did.

Is nurf whingers that make games turn to shit. Ie no c4 chuck, black hawk guns turned to shit etc etc etc

=C=
30th September 2011, 07:29 PM
had been playing for 2h 50~mins. Rank 13.
Loving the sniper :)
LOl @ the glint give away's but still like it.

Ohh and flashlight, OMG... that thing is insane.. ppl think they were flash banged :P

weps feel good. The movement feels just RIGHT. No shoddy console running through mud, and bad mouse movement. Feels quite nice and the first minute I started playing I felt like i've played it for years. graphics are purty and niiice. Donno about FPS but was it on max and felt no low fps. Might have to fire up fraps to check fps.

SheepShagger556
30th September 2011, 07:34 PM
Might have to fire up fraps to check fps. hold Ctrl + Alt + S

=C=
30th September 2011, 08:18 PM
hold Ctrl + Alt + S

Just ran fraps and getting a solid 50+ fps minimum outside. inside close to 100 minimum. Quite nice, however don't think that will be the case with ultra settings for final game lol.... BUT, you never know they might optimize it better :)

lvl 15 w00t.

ROFL alienz, u like my dance ;P