Can't anyone get it right?

[Slim]

Well, I have been playing solid for a week now, got to rank 55, completed a fair few of the challenges... but I'm bored and frustrated already. There are too many bugs in this game. Its like they just skipped the play test stage of development completely. I think I'm just going to put it aside until the first proper patch is released. I also get real frustrated playing objective based game modes, only to find myself on a team that will simply set up camp and ignore the objective completely.

The following are things I think need to be fixed, feel free to comment...

1. Noob Tube. The person who designed this should be fired. They need to a) Reduce projectile speed b) Increase drop rate (increase arc of fire) and c) Reduce splash damage.

2. Fix the sniper rifles. I can accept that they shouldn't be perfect, but it is very hard to hit even a still target over range. They are almost useless.

3. I have heard a lot of people complain about stun nades. I didn't understand why until I realised that they affect people based on range, as opposed to flash bangs, which you need to be looking at to have effect. So I reckon if they reduce the range of effect that it might solve the problem a little.

4. Increase the effective range of the shot gun a little.

5. The agog scope is a joke. It really needs to have some effect on accuracy to be worth while.

6. When teams are balanced, ie 6 on 6, make it imposable to switch teams, ie 7 on 5. People do it constantly for some reason and it forces the auto balance.

7. Increase the accuracy of the RPG slightly and increase splash damage. Its a fun weapon, but pretty damn tricky to kill anyone with.

8. Increase the spread of the Bombing Run slightly.

9. Decrease the accuracy of the P-90 slightly

10. I don't think that the weapon grip should remove perk slot 1. I honestly don't think that it has as much effect as say the red dot sight does.

Edit: 11. Kill assists should be worth %50.

[D_Unit]

Come play beef.

It's where it is at.

And I LOL, it was only a matter of time before someone who stopped and thought 'hey, this game isn't what it was made ou to be', and put it up here.

First kill3r, then you.

Just keep on bitchin', there will NEVER be a game that is perfect.

Enjoy the advantages while you can, cause a patch will come out, and FUCK everything up :D

[Goldo]

Well, I have been playing solid for a week now, got to rank 55, completed a fair few of the challenges... but I'm bored and frustrated already. There are too many bugs in this game. Its like they just skipped the play test stage of development completely. I think I'm just going to put it aside until the first proper patch is released. I also get real frustrated playing objective based game modes, only to find myself on a team that will simply set up camp and ignore the objective completely.

The following are things I think need to be fixed, feel free to comment...

1. Noob Tube. The person who designed this should be fired. They need to a) Reduce projectile speed b) Increase drop rate (increase arc of fire) and c) Reduce splash damage.

2. Fix the sniper rifles. I can accept that they shouldn't be perfect, but it is very hard to hit even a still target over range. They are almost useless.

3. I have heard a lot of people complain about stun nades. I didn't understand why until I realised that they affect people based on range, as opposed to flash bangs, which you need to be looking at to have effect. So I reckon if they reduce the range of effect that it might solve the problem a little.

Agree with all of the above.


4. Increase the effective range of the shot gun a little.

The shotty is fine. It is only a close combat weapon and excells at that. It's fine if you know how to use it.


5. The agog scope is a joke. It really needs to have some effect on accuracy to be worth while.

Agree, very bad attachment. The scope moves around too much and...yeah, not enough positives. BTW Slim, it gives positive range and detracts from accuracy.


6. When teams are balanced, ie 6 on 6, make it imposable to switch teams, ie 7 on 5. People do it constantly for some reason and it forces the auto balance.

Good idea tbh although that would make PUG/team arranging more difficult. There are some servers where you can't switch if the enemy has more on the other side.


7. Increase the accuracy of the RPG slightly and increase splash damage. Its a fun weapon, but pretty damn tricky to kill anyone with.

Nah, I got pretty proficient with it at the start. You can basically fire it at your feet and kill the dude and survive, if you know how to do it. Don't power it up, it'll be the new tube but without minimum range. Also, if you want more damage just use the explosives perk.


8. Increase the spread of the Bombing Run slightly.

NO, PLEASE REMOVE AIRSTRIKES!!!!!!!!!


9. Decrease the accuracy of the P-90 slightly

P90 is far too accurate imo and does too much damage. Added to this the double tap perk needs to be removed imo.


10. I don't think that the weapon grip should remove perk slot 1. I honestly don't think that it has as much effect as say the red dot sight does.

Agree, I use the handle but don't think it should take up the first slot. Not enough of a bonus of say a noob tube.


Edit: 11. Kill assists should be worth %50.

It's only points, don't really care.

[brucewillis2]

I agree with what you say about - played it for a week and now what. Golden weapons is what's next for me. I think we (BF2 players) are used to a game with a larger amount of variety: vehicles, different kits not just weapons, larger maps with more options, bigger more difficult challenges. When most people have unlocked most weapons and have gained top rank in a week, seen all the maps in detail you begin to ask what now. scrimming? comps? competitive play?

decent points though I agree with most, disagree with a few. It's still a fun game and don't rage too much when I see the last guy alive is a cowardly sniper that isn't going to move from his spot to defuse the bomb. Because tbh winning games on Cod4 don't concern me. winning rounds on BF2 did - don't know what this is.

[Temp]

1. Agree 100%.
2. Have never tried one.
3. Not sure what the problem is, aren't they stun grenades and not flashbangs? I quite like em.
4. No I get killed by it plenty, it's fine!
5. Agree 100%.
6. This may just be config setting.
7. Should be just to kill choppers.
8. I'd love to remove airstrikes and choppers.
9. I haven't noticed it to be too accurate, but that may be just me :D I'm not terribly accurate with anything!
10. Have not got past level 31 so do not know what this is.
11. Don't care.

I would love if this game had a few tweaks. The choppers should definitely go. The airstrikes aren't too bad, but aren't needed. There should be some better ET type objectives, and the teams should always spawn in the same half of the map so you always push in one direction.

I think maybe when everyone has got level 55 and don't care about ranked servers anymore we will see some servers being set up similar to this and people will join them. Also once everyone gets level 55 maybe people will discover the better game modes too. I'm still waiting to see the SAB server with people on it so I can try it out.

I still really like it though. Best FPS this year IMO, so far anyway.

[Bounty Hunter]

those arent bugs...

[Xt1ncT]

NO, PLEASE REMOVE AIRSTRIKES!!!!!!!!!

I agree 100%.

I hate airstrikes and choppers.

People argue that it takes skill to get a 5 kill streak, and yeah I'll concede that it takes *some* skill. But not a lot. Hell, even I can do it, so it can't be that hard.

On some maps it's just a continual die, spawn, get bombed, die, spawn, get choppered - rinse and repeat.

So IMO they are skill-less abortions that should never have been included.

The game is fun - but rank-ups are too quick, for someone to have finished it in a week makes a bit of a mockery of the game - and makes it in danger of becoming old very quickly. Unlike BF2 where we had a solid 2 years of gaming from it.

[KiLL3r]

Come play beef.

It's where it is at.

And I LOL, it was only a matter of time before someone who stopped and thought 'hey, this game isn't what it was made ou to be', and put it up here.

First kill3r, then you.

Just keep on bitchin', there will NEVER be a game that is perfect.

Enjoy the advantages while you can, cause a patch will come out, and FUCK everything up :D

i never complained about the gameplay, just the lack of it after achieving everything. Repetition is boring

[GoGoWaffles]

Alot of people here seem to <3 RPG style gameplay

Here's an idea, GO PLAY AN RPG

[Hazard]

I agree the rank up's need to take longer as it does give it good replay value.
As it is, I do really really enjoy it and I'm a long way off the top rank and completing challenges, but increasing that aspect of the game would be good.

I actually don't mind the choppers and airstikes, I like the extra challenge they bring, but my problem with them is that your kills from them shouldn't count towards your kill streak. What happens on a lot of maps is someone gets an airstrike, they use it and get another, and another, etc - it just is too easy to keep the enemy at bay due to bombings and choppers. To call in another airstrike, it should be only from kills you actually achieve, not what the airstike and/or chopper does for you.

The nube tube and P90 could do with a little tweaking, but they don't bother me too much as is. Although it does get damn annoying when every death in a round is from the tube or someone with the P90+Double Tap.

Other than that, I'm really enjoying the game as is

[switch.]

just get over the stats and pretty awards, this isnt bf2.


source dosent have any awards and only has server side stats and people have been playing it for years. instead of focusing on earning some silly award try playing the game to improve your skills and just for your own enjoyment.

[Marak2.0]

just get over the stats and pretty awards, this isnt bf2.


source dosent have any awards and only has server side stats and people have been playing it for years. instead of focusing on earning some silly award try playing the game to improve your skills and just for your own enjoyment.

why cs the best game out? i personally dont like it. a lot of games get compared to it aswel.. :S

more 2 the point, a lot of the stuff u say slim are good points.
moar custom classes is what they need tbh



Agree, very bad attachment. The scope moves around too much and...yeah, not enough positives. BTW Slim, it gives positive range and detracts from accuracy.


the worst attachment. wats the point of range without accuracy? spam?

[Snake_Daddy]

Agree with what u say about GL but also u should only get one.

with stun nades the affect should be halved.

All the rest Im not to worried about and wouldnt mind them being left alone.


If ur bored of pubbing just join a clan and start scriming thats were this game really will shine.

But on that note they really need some one of geeting the people on the pubs to work as a team. Squads and SL's would be cool for hq or deathmatch

[5loth]

why cs the best game out? i personally dont like it. a lot of games get compared to it aswel.. :S

more 2 the point, a lot of the stuff u say slim are good points.
moar custom classes is what they need tbh



the worst attachment. wats the point of range without accuracy? spam?

the reason cs is compared, is because it is 1. the most played (by FAR)

and 2. the most successful FPS ever made to date.

[-CowwieStyle-]

Come play beef.

It's where it is at.



Zomg im so rushing back to play bf2 infantry only lol.

[sheikyerboutie]

4. Increase the effective range of the shot gun a little.

Stuff the rest,just like a list of BF2 flaws....in my 19 hours of playtime i find,
I still haven't got all the controls sorted to my liking,
I cant seem to hit anyone with sights,so resort to the Shotgun(what clown thought of a red dot scope for a shotty) DUMB !
I get pawnd big time,over and over...lol (would hate to see a KDR lol )
I hate the knife/melee thing,
I cant snipe for shit with the steady aim thing,
I hate the shitty little small maps,
I hate the G3....only single shot !!!!,now thats just fucking dumb !
And I hate only having 1 fucking nade !!!!!!!!!!! ..i could go on...

But all in all its a ton of fun,and getting addictive,and i LIKE playing it,sure it has issues just like BF2,and far from realistic(closer to it than BF2),but it is a GREAT game.. :rnr:
And thats all it is....the result of imagination.

[Thetruereddevil]

Though i agree with some of what youve said, i do conclude you will never be satisfied with a fps;)

noobtube is annoying, as the p-90 can be, but hey most games have these type of weapons, its annoying when it constantly happening, but i havent been made to rage quit too much yet

do agree the ranks need to be changed though, bit sad im about 8 from the top after playing for 20 hours.

[Zenith]

DON'T PLAY WAKE!!!!

sorry had to say it.

Most of the points you make slim should be simple tweaks on a patch.
I guess testing the game on a console instead of a PC was going to produce different results for us, could be another reason ranks are easy. They have tryed to make the perks not overpowering and keep the game even. where as a game like 2142 you start completely helpless, cod4 you can get into it much easier.

Seems funny to complain how hard the sniper rifle is to use. Imagine in RL sprinting for 50m and then sighting up someone another 50m away. Hold breath and head shot.

[winfieldsaregoo]

well i stated a new acount as i ranked up quite quickly (deleted old one when reinsatlling to make 1.2 patch work)

and when ive done this one my new chalange is to get full rank in under 24hrs of game play,for this acount i have now im at two star genrale and the time is 23 hrs 30 mins.

also use the m16 its mint not like crappy old bf2 i was once a p90 user and have only used it like 5 times when there has been to many shit cunts using it

[xcuzznxtimmyx]

man you're angry slimmy

lol nah

i pretty much agree about the GL, pisses me off...

but yeah as Snakey said, scrimming is where its at....

seriously, had a go at 4v4 search and destroy, was whoresome....

[sad.act]

I hate only having 1 fucking nade !!!!!!

Everything that was wrong with BF2.

You want CoD to be the same.

Fix: If you're a nade spammer, don't play CoD.

[Catalyst]

Everything that was wrong with BF2.

You want CoD to be the same.

Fix: If you're a nade spammer, don't play CoD.

i guess ill stay with beef then

[winfieldsaregoo]

i guess ill stay with beef then

good dont need any more tards

[swindle]

good dont need any more tards
lol good call

[Catalyst]

good dont need any more tards

well to bad retard

[frostalarm]

if and when they bring out the map builder, you will find there will be bigger maps.

Doesnt auto asign, put the last player to join the un-even side, back to the opposite team ? it use to in CoD2 anyway.

[Addicted]

No game will ever get it right, because theres allways gonna be some1 bitchin bout how that gun is overpowerd or that the ranks are to easy to get. some1 will allways point out the fawls

tbh get over it, deal with it.

[swindle]

Gold.

[Snoopy]

Most of the points are valid.

The gun sounds lack "oomph"

[3N][X]

But on that note they really need some one of geeting the people on the pubs to work as a team. Squads and SL's would be cool for hq or deathmatch


lol. teamwork on thoses matches is a joke. the only mode s&d is where some tw is required. s&d is where its at.

[swindle]

Most of the points are valid.

The gun sounds lack "oomph"
The guns themselves could do with a little more punch.

[Goldo]

People wanting more nades should fuck off and die.

[5loth]

some1 will allways point out the fawls



lol.

[swindle]

Second that motion.

[Alexo256]

Why not just disable the noobtube in all iconz servers?

[Catalyst]

Why not just disable the noobtube in all iconz servers?

because some people like it


also some people dont have a cry or bitch an moan about every little thing that they see as wrong

[sheikyerboutie]

People wanting more nades should fuck off and die.

My comment should be taken in jest whereas yours is just plain offensive and contributes nothing whatsoever.

[Goldo]

It contributes the fact that nade spammers are downies and should be taken out back and shot tbh.

[Catalyst]

It contributes the fact that nade spammers are downies and should be taken out back and shot tbh.

http://www.lilyjuliet.com/TIS%20BOX%202%20copy.jpg

[blight]

leave everything on for pub, sure it can get annoying but if your good enough it shouldn't really matter. Its meant to be fun, and if claymores, rocket launchers and c4 are your thing then go for it tbh

[Addicted]

lol claymores.... Sila.switchs only weakness :P

[aLi3nZ]

Agree with most of that. + imo they should remove choppers and air strikes completly from S&D and leave it for deathmatch / headquarters.

[Slim]

Have you played COD4 Catalyst? The noob tube is not some minor inconvenience. At least in BF2 it takes a little skill to use at range. At least you need to judge the distance and the angle. In COD 4 this is not the case. Literally, all you do is point and fire. You won't here me having a go at some poor bastard who just started playing using it to get a kill or two coz they have no idea whats going on. Its when reasonably experience clanners start using it that I get frustrated.

Secondly, this is not a bitch or moan thread. These are things which, after playing the game for about 25 hours, I have observed as things which need to be addressed in the first patch.

On a side note. If you have played the game then make a comment. Don't come in here spamming you little fuck tard. Piss off back to your BF2 thread and try and keep this one tard free where possible. Shit even Godless made a valuable and interesting contribution to the thread. All you can do is spam.

[5loth]

once everyone gets over the ranking system,

servers can be set up however you want, with no GL's, decrease/increase power on any weapons you want including nades, anything you can imagine
basically can be tweaked.

[GhostOfGallipoli]

heres my wishlist;


for people to stop crying over a game!

there is no game breaking problems (at least as far as i can see....and after heavily slamming up the rank over the last couple of days im having a ball.


you complaing about the choppers/airstrikes....how many people seriously get killed by them...FUCK ALL!


so cease with the salty tears least the patch to fix your bugbears and we end up with another nerfed and broken BF2

[Goldo]

Choppers and air strikes are aids. And air strikes, especially, if a decent player who has a UAV up on the right map, you're fucked. You can't do shit on Bog for one, bugger all cover and yeah, you're fucked.

[brucewillis2]

Have you played COD4 Catalyst? The noob tube is not some minor inconvenience. At least in BF2 it takes a little skill to use at range. At least you need to judge the distance and the angle. In COD 4 this is not the case. Literally, all you do is point and fire.

I once saw a guy miss with the GL - true story.

[Slim]

Must have been flash banged... only explanation.

[sad.act]

I once saw a guy miss with the GL - true story.

Pretty sure that's a lie.

[playerB]

airstrike should not be changed imo, maby takes out of some game modes but it give you ample time to avoid them.

[[tsw].Forsaken]

man leave the game alone, although I agree with some points here I don't have the same feelings towards some issues like granades or GL as some of you do.

GL are lots of fun but at the same time, you are exposed when firing so you will get shot. Also RPG are a crack up...kinda makes me feel like playing a COD version of Unreal Tournament. Just go commando with RPG, not even using the sights. People in this game will use the guns because they are fun for them, as you don't have such a stupid system of ranks and stuff like in BF2.

Everything at the very end balances out...in a chaotic way but a a balanced chaos. Think of AWP in CS....if BF2rs play CS they would start saying stuff like what a noobcanon.

Saying that people who use granades are gay as well as those who use GL is just plain dumb. In the contrary, they are enjoying themselves and good for them. Thats the whole point of PLAYING A GAME.

If I'm in the mood of using a HMG with penetration perk and double damage whatever and wanna go through the building shooting through walls and feel like some kind of couch potato rambo...let me / or anyone do it. But you will always have the moron saying something like "what a fag, grow some balls and use shotgun...blah blah...skills...blah blah...I'm awesome....blah blah...you suck...blah blah your mum". ..............if I don't wanna use a weapon, or if I want to use on ein particular I'm just gonna do it. And I WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO DO THE SAME SO THEY CAN HAVE AS MUCH FUN AS I AM HAVING.

the end. (interested in usig this as a script for a movie please PM)....fuck I talk shit HAHAHAHA

[sheikyerboutie]

Saying that people who use granades are gay as well as those who use GL is just plain dumb. In the contrary, they are enjoying themselves and good for them. Thats the whole point of PLAYING A GAME

Agreed,now tell that to Godless....he seems to have such an issue with their use...as so many others do..:violin:

[sad.act]

GL are lots of fun but at the same time, you are exposed when firing so you will get shot.

You are equally exposed when shooting your gun, what's your point?

[Fubar]

I once saw a guy miss with the GL - true story.


That was me :) I can't hit shit with a GL no matter how hard I try

[`Dirty Heathen]

After finally getting to scrim it against TSW tonight is a really fun game to scrim very intense especially when your last man alive and your whole team is watching you.

But yer really fun even though we lost was really good fun cheers TSW.

[swindle]

lol claymores.... Sila.switchs only weakness :P
lol

[Goldo]

Saying that people who use granades are gay as well as those who use GL is just plain dumb. In the contrary, they are enjoying themselves and good for them. Thats the whole point of PLAYING A GAME.

I totally agree. Throwing grenades instead of using a gun to kill people is liek totally awesome.

[dark_angel]

ahh i found it before i made my own thread....

havent been playing long aye i read some of the comments and i agree with alot of them

airstrikes dont bother me too much, theres usually heaps of cover around..

i rage a little bit but i just remember, this game is 10 times better than BF2 (imo) and the high skill level of the other players is a nice change

i like it

oh and the nade thing, fuck im glad theres only 1

[sad.act]

oh and the nade thing, fuck im glad theres only 1

One grenade?

You can get like 3... and then you can choose martyrdom.

[dark_angel]

One grenade?

You can get like 3... and then you can choose martyrdom.

fuck off, i hate that shit

[KiLL3r]

just played a few rounds where at least 6-10 choppers were called in each round, totally ruins the game

[sad.act]

lol I played on 28th MB last night and 2 in 3 people had martyrdom, sometimes 2 people died around me and both dropped fucking nades... How disappointing.

[GhostOfGallipoli]

just played a few rounds where at least 6-10 choppers were called in each round, totally ruins the game

use cover


lol I played on 28th MB last night and 2 in 3 people had martyrdom, sometimes 2 people died around me and both dropped fucking nades... How disappointing.


yeah, it's a bummer when people make their own choices on how to play a game.

[sad.act]

IMO they should be able to make servers made for people like you, and others made for people who like to play fair.

That way you guys can all get together and double tap p90 the shit out of each other, and spam your 3x nades and then drop another when you die. Everyone wins.

[5loth]

use cover




yeah, it's a bummer when people make their own choices on how to play a game.

ghost, not everything in a game is good,

some things are actually gay/shit.

[Matt]

How dare you 5loth, whats next? saying beef2 is better?

[KiLL3r]

use cover


thats my point cowering in a building the whole round isnt much fun

[urbaninja]

thats my point cowering in a building the whole round isnt much fun

It is when its loaded with enemies and you have a spam fest with the shotty.

[han16]

The airstrikes, choppers, nades, GL's, fat kids on trikes all piss me off to somedegree....

But the absolute worst thing is the spwanin...seriously why the fuck would anyone wanna spawn infront of some arsewipe with a LMG......................with double tap!

[Slim]

I just had a game of HC TDM and it was by far the worst game of Cod4 I have ever had. It is fun for objective game modes, but it just turns into the most unimaginable camp fest on DM servers.

[9th.PirateJafa]

That was because you left just as Han, Decap and myself joined, Slim!

HC is good fun, but it needs a minimap so you can see your teammates. Otherwise it's a fucking mission to get any sort of strategy into the gameplay as you don't know where your team is and there are no named landmarks to navigate by.

[Who_ate_my_rice]

The guns themselves could do with a little more punch.

what about more pep.

[brucewillis2]

hey does the wheel mouse get used in CS? just wondering why they choose not to use it in COD4. I guess what I'm trying to say is did they go out of their way to make this as much like CS as possible.

[swindle]

Yeah, you could bind it so that when it was rolled up/down it changed to that weapon instantly. It was awesome. Real quick changing.

[5loth]

hey does the wheel mouse get used in CS? just wondering why they choose not to use it in COD4. I guess what I'm trying to say is did they go out of their way to make this as much like CS as possible.

cod4 is exactly the same as cod2 (not exactly, but you can see its a sequel), its nothing like cs tbh. the way cs uses money and many other elements that make it unique
make it a very, very different game.

[swindle]

Its not that far off.

Terrorist vs Non terrorists. FPS. Different classes of guns. Mini-map. Similar size maps.

[5loth]

Its not that far off.

Terrorist vs Non terrorists. FPS. Different classes of guns. Mini-map. Similar size maps.

in cod you play round by round, cs you play two full halves, that consist of rounds, but have an ongoing money system throughout the half, introducing
an element of money management. not to mention pistol rounds, the fact
teams have different weapons and how they're balanced, a completely different health system, the list could go on, of things that change the way the
game plays entirely.

so yes, if you look at the exterior in a simple minded way such as you described above, they could appear similar..

[GhostOfGallipoli]

ghost, not everything in a game is good,

some things are actually gay/shit.


meh, i've played the same game you guys have....but im not doing all the moaning


martyrdom, double tap....meh, respawn and move on

[swindle]

You should really leave the CoD section sloth. Your not exactly doing anything useful.

[5loth]

You should really leave the CoD section sloth. Your not exactly doing anything useful.

aslong as you kill yourself for the same reason.

honestly, all i've seen you do here is make fucking retarded whinge threads, you're not exactly gods gift to the cod forums.

[elemunk]

You went from cool to retarded cunt in about a day swindle, why so bitter?

[[Mgp]]

You should really leave the CoD section sloth. Your not exactly doing anything useful.






Well I'd call posts that are constructive and make sense more useful than most of your posts, swindle, imo anyway. BTW, Ive seen you play a fair bit and you are always reconnecting when you get a crap score, which seems quite often and...its lame. imo once again:)

[pyro]

Its not that far off.

Terrorist vs Non terrorists. FPS. Different classes of guns. Mini-map. Similar size maps.


You pretty much just mentioned every decent fps out there. So every fps in the future now is going to be copying CS? Because those are pretty much how fps are played out unless your going to go for something abstract to add to the mix.

The fact you guys complain the maps are small is only because most of you come from playing bf2 for the past couple of years which in comparison to any other fps has massive maps. CS, SOF, ET, Quake, UT, Cod are all similar sizes in maps which tbh is a good size for most maps.

[Obbles]

You went from cool

He was? :S

[Randomized]

;614723'] BTW, Ive seen you play a fair bit and you are always reconnecting when you get a crap score, which seems quite often and...its lame. imo once again:)

He was on the same server as me last night. All he really did was camp. Showdown was the map... thought to myself, after all his bitching and moaning and this is how he plays? ~N~ have gone downhill if they recruited him...

[brucewillis2]

The fact you guys complain the maps are small is only because most of you come from playing bf2 for the past couple of years which in comparison to any other fps has massive maps. CS, SOF, ET, Quake, UT, Cod are all similar sizes in maps which tbh is a good size for most maps.

I'm not complaining I just like bigger open maps better, BF2 did a good thing bringing those in. I find COD4 games to be VERY campy, from the very start of the round some people die from sniper shots, nade spam, camping bottlenecks... it gets a bit tiresome tbh. I can see myself playing this for now but only until the next good game comes along, whenever that might be... a lot of the major releases have failed lately.

[sad.act]

You pretty much just mentioned every decent fps out there. So every fps in the future now is going to be copying CS?

lol beaten :(

WD on another stupid post swindle, you're getting good at this.

[Goldo]

Spetsnaz aren't terrorists, they're Russian special forces.

[noob_pwnerer]

This game is the 4th in the call of duty series.

Its like the other call of duty games to a certain degree, if you dont like the gameplay then gtfo, because i know alot of people that love it.

the only part I agree with is the noob tubes, also i wish they didnt use punkbuster.

On release day the multiplayer servers were up and running. Thats huuuuuuuge.

All new games are going to have bugs. The amount of code is insane, of course its not going to be flawless, but what really matters is the support.

Bugs ? the only bugs ive seen is sometimes bullets, rockets, GL's get stuck in the air.

The few times Ive picked up and used a sniper rifle ive hit people (i dont even have a "hold breath" button assigned) sooooo......... wtf ? get aim mayb ?

chunts.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/554995a361.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

[Goldo]

^COD4 is 3rd in series? Wrong. COD3 was console only release IIRC.

[noob_pwnerer]

^COD4 is 3rd in series? Wrong. COD3 was console only release IIRC.

lOl

[kilabee]

Console ! Thats why it doesnt count

[5loth]

it was,

but it was still similar to the previous CoDs, regardless of platform.

CoD4 is the 4th in the call of duty series, just the 3rd for PC.

[swindle]

;614723']Well I'd call posts that are constructive and make sense more useful than most of your posts, swindle, imo anyway. BTW, Ive seen you play a fair bit and you are always reconnecting when you get a crap score, which seems quite often and...its lame. imo once again:)
Ive reconnected twice. Since ive been playing it from release day, i have reconnected twice. The fact that i have to go AFK sometimes for my baby really does not help my scores. Get you facts right you fucking nub.


You pretty much just mentioned every decent fps out there. So every fps in the future now is going to be copying CS? Because those are pretty much how fps are played out unless your going to go for something abstract to add to the mix.

The fact you guys complain the maps are small is only because most of you come from playing bf2 for the past couple of years which in comparison to any other fps has massive maps. CS, SOF, ET, Quake, UT, Cod are all similar sizes in maps which tbh is a good size for most maps.
I dont care about the size of the maps, just dont think some of them are suited to S&D.


He was on the same server as me last night. All he really did was camp. Showdown was the map... thought to myself, after all his bitching and moaning and this is how he plays? ~N~ have gone downhill if they recruited him...
lol show me some decent scores? Or how about you come scrim for ~N~ then if you can do better you fucking pub hero. Judge me and how well i do from one map on one server? Gj.

[Goldo]

Showdown requires 1 thing: hold the top. That's why people get frustrated as the entire objective of the map (in TDM) is camping.

[swindle]

Im not allowed to camp becasue i play for ~N~

lol

kk

[sad.act]

Make a thread about it.

[prolax]

nothing wrong with camping, with out it you have lower chances of winning, I dont camp showdown tho I run round getting airstrikes and choppers :D

[Karatoo]

Im not allowed to camp becasue i play for ~N~

lol

kk

Well i can't camp, thats how shit i am.

[Randomized]

lol show me some decent scores? Or how about you come scrim for ~N~ then if you can do better you fucking pub hero. Judge me and how well i do from one map on one server? Gj.

Why do I need to show scores? Wont prove shit, some maps I do great,others I dont, so what? Never claimed to be a pub hero. I play socially at the mo, maybe one day when I feel like it I'll join a clan. But it's more than one map... and I know camping is an important tactic... but you take it to extremes.. like the whinging.

[brucewillis2]

Im not allowed to camp becasue i play for ~N~

I can't camp either, it's just not in my nature... charge in guns blazing is my technique.

I die a lot. :disappoin

[swindle]

Why do I need to show scores? Wont prove shit, some maps I do great,others I dont, so what? Never claimed to be a pub hero. I play socially at the mo, maybe one day when I feel like it I'll join a clan. But it's more than one map... and I know camping is an important tactic... but you take it to extremes.. like the whinging.
I take camping to the extreme?!

You have the wrong person. Sorry about the confusion.

[kilabee]

I can't camp either, it's just not in my nature... charge in guns blazing is my technique.

I die a lot. :disappoin

Me too.My k/d is awful but i dont give a fuck.Its how i play and i enjoy it.Find a camper ,die,then go back and waste him :rnr:

[Goldo]

Why do I need to show scores? Wont prove shit, some maps I do great,others I dont, so what? Never claimed to be a pub hero. I play socially at the mo, maybe one day when I feel like it I'll join a clan. But it's more than one map... and I know camping is an important tactic... but you take it to extremes.. like the whinging.

Yeah...I don't recall Swindle camping EXTREME. Perhaps you just run into silly exposed places?

[SirGrimNZ]

In FFA campers rule the scoreboard.
This carries over to S&D as well.In s&d,wether ur attacking or defending,never rush,wait the enemy out.Patience is a virtue in S&D,and campers rule the roost.

[Goldo]

In FFA campers rule the scoreboard.
This carries over to S&D as well.In s&d,wether ur attacking or defending,never rush,wait the enemy out.Patience is a virtue in S&D,and campers rule the roost.

No. You can't be playing with people like Switch or F0rky. They don't camp (well, I don't know about Switch but from what I've seen he doesn't) and still dominate.

[urbaninja]

Me too.My k/d is awful but i dont give a fuck.Its how i play and i enjoy it.Find a camper ,die,then go back and waste him :rnr:

My k/d is probably below 0.5 lol, like you kilabee who gives a shit, its only a game, its meant to be fun, not all hardcore matter of life and death stuff.

[Goldo]

Yeah but I personally prefer killing more than dying ;)

[enile8]

There is a few little bugs with the weapons. The choppers are so easy to rpg so I don't mind them. The air strikes can get annoying but all in all the game is pretty good.
And who cares about rank. Rank is fail. If I'm playing fps on a pub I'm playing to win the the map not the get a shinny little icon. As someone else said if you want a rpg go play a rpg.

</2c>

[Metal-Fingerz]

its funny everyone moans about campin but really campers always get done, if someone is campin u got kill cam so you know where they are, its your on fault if you get done by the same dude in the same position, and well if hes not there next time hes not camping so quit your bitching. CoD requires some patience (which i dont have much of)

in CoD4 there are choke points esp. on S&D and yea either you wait for someone to come thru it or you go thru guns blazing, that said a few flash bangs or stuns can clear choke points but everyone seems to bitch about campers, the nature of the maps create that style of gameplay

and swindle doesnt camp. i recall on a TD yesterday only me and him were the only people pushing forward the rest of the team was snipin on top of building woot.

[Snake_Daddy]

yer campers = easy kills

[brucewillis2]

the rest of the team was snipin on top of building woot.

very common now and just as pathetic. I don't like snipers, a person that would sit back from the fight and safety try to pick people off. scum.

[SirGrimNZ]

No. You can't be playing with people like Switch or F0rky. They don't camp (well, I don't know about Switch but from what I've seen he doesn't) and still dominate.


I'm seen switch camp in a crossfire S&D match and because he camped,he absolutely slaughtered the enemy team,me included.

[elemunk]

So many of you guys still have no idea how video games work outside of the noob friendly 'run around doing what you want! where you want!' factor.

in BF2, 2142, you run around in pubs with no static objective, there are no attackers and defenders (no the little 'story' whilst loading karkand doesn't mean shit).

99&#37; of people having a whinge about camping here, are actually crying about defending, see, in this game, there ARE attackers and defenders, static objectives, small maps, what alot of you are proposing is something like this:

'Quick everyone on the server run into the open where we can all see each other, then we firez OLOLOL.'
http://www.albany.edu/~dc0852/gettysburg.jpg

Camping in a game like CS, or CoD1 , 2 or 4, UT (not so much), etc could be put down to an attacking teams sniper, like suggested, hanging back in spawn, being the last left, not doing anything.

Defending is holding back near / behind a bombsite, out of site, until you hear / see the enemy rush in screaming "LOL I SEE NOONE, SO BOMB SITE MUST B CLEAR'.

Being a defender, hiding and (LOMG DEFENDING YOUR BOMBSITE) is not camping, its defending.

The reason you have flashbangs and your gay ass stuns is to bang the corners where there are generally DEFENDERS before rushing in, otherwise, take it slow, and go around the flank.

FIRE AND MANUVOUR FIRE AND MANUVOUR FIRE AND MANUVOUR FIRE AND MANUVOUR.

Alot of pub players are still creatures of habit, if you get pinched hard by a defender, he will most likely still be in the same place.

[switch.]

I'm seen switch camp in a crossfire S&D match and because he camped,he absolutely slaughtered the enemy team,me included.

you mean when im defending the bomb? lol

[urbaninja]

Yeah but I personally prefer killing more than dying ;)

But do you try new things with yourself in game? e.g. Jump off a building hoping to god you survive the fall then blast an enemy in the face with a shotgun as you land? Or stab them in the back?

I usually mess around in most fps games I play lol. You don't exactly want me in your team.

[Goldo]

No, I'm not generally in the habit of doing retarded shit that gets me killed??

[Metal-Fingerz]

So many of you guys still have no idea how video games work outside of the noob friendly 'run around doing what you want! where you want!' factor.

in BF2, 2142, you run around in pubs with no static objective, there are no attackers and defenders (no the little 'story' whilst loading karkand doesn't mean shit).

99% of people having a whinge about camping here, are actually crying about defending, see, in this game, there ARE attackers and defenders, static objectives, small maps, what alot of you are proposing is something like this:

'Quick everyone on the server run into the open where we can all see each other, then we firez OLOLOL.'
http://www.albany.edu/~dc0852/gettysburg.jpg

Camping in a game like CS, or CoD1 , 2 or 4, UT (not so much), etc could be put down to an attacking teams sniper, like suggested, hanging back in spawn, being the last left, not doing anything.

Defending is holding back near / behind a bombsite, out of site, until you hear / see the enemy rush in screaming "LOL I SEE NOONE, SO BOMB SITE MUST B CLEAR'.

Being a defender, hiding and (LOMG DEFENDING YOUR BOMBSITE) is not camping, its defending.

The reason you have flashbangs and your gay ass stuns is to bang the corners where there are generally DEFENDERS before rushing in, otherwise, take it slow, and go around the flank.

FIRE AND MANUVOUR FIRE AND MANUVOUR FIRE AND MANUVOUR FIRE AND MANUVOUR.

Alot of pub players are still creatures of habit, if you get pinched hard by a defender, he will most likely still be in the same place.

dont copy what i say fool

you are just far more expansive in your wording , but seriously i agree with that entirely but..... in say team death match which i dont particularly like but play.

if your team camps and defends ( n.b. there is nothing to defend in TDM) then those who do push dont have any cover from their team and the other team pushes in and before you know it your spawn camped and the fault of this is entirely your teams lack of movement.

yea pub play is going to be messy if you choose to run around in the open with your Ak thinking 'i am rambo's illagetimate love child' unless you are daym classy (some players can do this) you are going to die a lot but the difference i think that people fail to realise is that campers as they are called more often than not are just players who put a little more value on their life than others.

but there are some people who just camp but they usually arent any good

[Metal-Fingerz]

No, I'm not generally in the habit of doing retarded shit that gets me killed??

i dunno i think people wanna kill you.... IRL!!!!! :bounce: hahaha how many threats have you had from people wanting to smash u

[`Dirty Heathen]

Your main objective when defending in S&D is to defend the bomb sites which may mean sitting in one spot waiting for the enemy its not camping it pretty simple really.

[Slim]

You won't hear me criticizing someone for camping in the likes of S&D, KOTH etc. Its only really in TDM that it fucks me off. Its fine in DM in my mind, even necessary if you want to do even slightly well - as long as you don't camp with a spawn point in your cross hairs. That shit is just gay,

[brucewillis2]

lately I've been playing on the pubs and one team, usually the opposite team I'm on, just sits in corners of rooms pointing at doorways. Grrr


But do you try new things with yourself in game? e.g. Jump off a building hoping to god you survive the fall then blast an enemy in the face with a shotgun as you land? Or stab them in the back?

This is me also, I've been going through the challenges for something different because I like the idea of progression not doing the same thing over and over again. Still having trouble with that airborne and domino's challenge... airborne = 2 kills while in midair. Bunny hopping shotty technique perhaps? Who has completed that challenge?

[Metal-Fingerz]

very common now and just as pathetic. I don't like snipers, a person that would sit back from the fight and safety try to pick people off. scum.

yea i have no issues with snipers provided they are happy to push up and attack a bit and wang out the secondary weapon from time to time.

the other day i hit snake daddy in the head with a ridiculous snap shot in the head with a sniper at about 10meteres he was bouncing around trying to shoot me i jumped zoomed, snapped headshot was utter bullshit it looked like i hit his leg ahah, i snipe occassionally but i move with the team and will use my secondary gun a fair bit.


You won't hear me criticizing someone for camping in the likes of S&D, KOTH etc. Its only really in TDM that it fucks me off. Its fine in DM in my mind, even necessary if you want to do even slightly well - as long as you don't camp with a spawn point in your cross hairs. That shit is just gay,

yea DM is just madness some form of camping is req. unless u got a mp5 or p90 those guns rape DM

[Metal-Fingerz]

This is me also, I've been going through the challenges for something different because I like the idea of progression not doing the same thing over and over again. Still having trouble with that airborne and domino's challenge... airborne = 2 kills while in midair. Bunny hopping shotty technique perhaps? Who has completed that challenge?[/QUOTE]


yea me too i cant get that one, also got to use the g36c to get gold AK, i so dont like this gun in Cod4 it has such shit accuracy on hip accuracy i find it has to be zoomed to be effective!

[Randomized]

Yeah...I don't recall Swindle camping EXTREME. Perhaps you just run into silly exposed places?


No I remember it clearly, it was a TDM and he was camping the spawn points.... spawn, die, spawn, die...

Other than that it wouldn't have bothered me at all.

[swindle]

lol

The only time a ever camped spwan, was DM Hardcore on the MB server, and i was aliased. So your wrong. Perhaps you kept spawning where i was, if so bl pal.

[winfieldsaregoo]

omg on s&d larst night on the team i was on there was all ways the same three faggot snipers alive and thay wouldnt try to plant the bomb/defuse it was retarted

in fact thay would run away from the bomb site

and the larst straw was when mace would pick up the bomb and just camp im mean not even move in at all untill i started to blarsting my DE right next to him to get him to move in and plant.


GG mace

[Randomized]

lol

The only time a ever camped spwan, was DM Hardcore on the MB server, and i was aliased. So your wrong. Perhaps you kept spawning where i was, if so bl pal.

Your name was and is ~N~ Swindle... That was the death message coming up. And spawning next to you obviously, I was at spawn ffs. But my apologies, because you are also the biggest thing to hit COD someone must've been aliasing you.

I know what I and many others saw.

[GhostOfGallipoli]

who cares


respawn, move on

[winfieldsaregoo]

dont the spwans rotate so wouldnt it be hard to camp spwans and there are far bigger problmes with cunts being lamer than that any way

[Metal-Fingerz]

Your name was and is ~N~ Swindle... That was the death message coming up. And spawning next to you obviously, I was at spawn ffs. But my apologies, because you are also the biggest thing to hit COD someone must've been aliasing you.

I know what I and many others saw.

not going say it didnt happen but 3 things i will add,
1. sometimes you can get spawn camped but its unintentional, quite frequently a guy kills me i spawn and hes infront of me and i shoot him in the back, if your lurking in someones spawn areas u either tread carefully and be very aware of foot steps around you or you die, so thats not camping as there is lots of enemies and one rambo in your spawn area,

2. what i have seen of swindle he is one of the few dudes that does move around in TDM and i really enjoyed playing with him for that very reason is hes not a lampost with a sniper rifle.

3. spawn camping is not half bad. would rather be camped then either noob tubed or spawn on some gay ass matrydom fag... small maps = lots of deaths. by that i mean if you start dying on a small map expect to die a few times as you can get bad spawns nade spawned etc etc. quite often you can get killed spawn. then insta dead once again.

blame your team for not covering your spawn area dont blame the enemy for killing you, thats his goal. and hes achieved it

[Addicted]

you people who are flaming swindle need to SHUT THE FUCK UP and GET THE FUCK OUT SCREEN SHOT OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN

far q your a douche and i hope you die of cancer to be honest would be the greatest thing cancer has done for this planet

[Addicted]

gaaay my post was deleted. it was awesome. and needed to be said TBH lol got 9 infraction points for it :)

[Hazard]

it was deleted and has put you very close to be banned from these forums AND the tournament - so I would advise you to keep the abuse in check.

I haven't the time or patience to clean up the rest of the thread right now, but come on guys, this isn't primary school, if someone has a different opinion, just deal with it - you don't have to hurl abuse at them because of it.

[Menial]

Use rocks instead :D

[Addicted]

these people speak there mind bout swindle yet i cant bout them. whos sucking whos cock ?!

[Hazard]

as per my above post, I don't have time to deal with it right now as I am busy with tournament things.

But also, none of the comments made about Swindle came close you the crap you wrote.

[Addicted]

what did i write again ? can you please quote me

ty

[Hazard]

well you wrote it, I figured you'd know.
And why would I say what you wrote after deleting it?? would seem a little pointless really wouldn't it?

anyway, just drop it

[swindle]

Yeah...I don't recall Swindle camping EXTREME. Perhaps you just run into silly exposed places?
Sounds more like it.



2. what i have seen of swindle he is one of the few dudes that does move around in TDM and i really enjoyed playing with him for that very reason is hes not a lampost with a sniper rifle.
Cheers dude :)

Always a good game with you. Like you said, your up in the mist of it all. Would rush with you anytime.

As for farq, i know for a fact you have no idea what your talking about so i couldn't care less what you have to say. Your wrong in your statements about TDM.

Haz, let the shit be said in this thread so its left out of anywhere else. People need to say what they need to say, and i will stick up for myself/mates/team in a second if they're being ripped on. Let others do the same.

[Addicted]

Haz, let the shit be said in this thread so its left out of anywhere else. People need to say what they need to say, and i will stick up for myself/mates/team in a second if they're being ripped on. Let others do the same.

Yea let me post what i said before again !

[Lunatik]

I've played with swindle a fair bit, and not once have i seen him camp or reconnect. A lot of the times i have seen him with quite high scores. myself, i have shit scores. not the best at this game, still practicing :laff:

[Demkaio]

This is me also, I've been going through the challenges for something different because I like the idea of progression not doing the same thing over and over again. Still having trouble with that airborne and domino's challenge... airborne = 2 kills while in midair. Bunny hopping shotty technique perhaps? Who has completed that challenge?

I managed to get the airborn one with the mp5 on vacant (playing on the hard core server) just jumped around a corner and got two =)

[Goldo]

Some of the spawns are BL. If an enemy gets in position to camp them and isn't fucked up pretty quickly then it's only the team to blame. The point of TDM is to go kill the opposition...you go find them and eventually find the spawn.

[brucewillis2]

I managed to get the airborn one with the mp5 on vacant (playing on the hard core server) just jumped around a corner and got two =)

yeah I have to unlearn BF2 style because you can't jump and shoot... instinctively I just don't do that. old dog <> new tricks.

[Goldo]

yeah I have to unlearn BF2 style because you can't jump and shoot... instinctively I just don't do that. old dog <> new tricks.

Haha I jump too much :$

[Demkaio]

yeah I have to unlearn BF2 style because you can't jump and shoot... instinctively I just don't do that. old dog <> new tricks.

Yeah i dont usually jump and shoot, but it was the only way i could think of to get that acheivemnet hahaha

[Metal-Fingerz]

anytime swindle its nice to play with people who play properly that said i am not a great player at all but i attempt to play the game for the team not for myself or my score,

i think it is best these forums get moderated with what people post...
there will always be personality clashes and people are dickheads fo sure but not everyone comes to these forums to see some pure faggotry posts about how cool <insert name here> is

[winfieldsaregoo]

anytime swindle its nice to play with people who play properly that said i am not a great player at all but i attempt to play the game for the team not for myself or my score,

i think it is best these forums get moderated with what people post...
there will always be personality clashes and people are dickheads fo sure but not everyone comes to these forums to see some pure faggotry posts about how cool <winny> is


fixed

i just wish that people who play for them selves would stick to tdm and dm.
And not stuffing up other players enjoyment of mode like sab tkoth and s&d

and you know who you are

[sad.act]

No don't tell them to stick to TDM. That NZ DM server is like M60 M60 P90... Some guy even had a gold M60...

[Menial]

Bandolier + Double tap + Deep impact tbh

[Metal-Fingerz]

No don't tell them to stick to TDM. That NZ DM server is like M60 M60 P90... Some guy even had a gold M60...

haha im sick of using shitty guns to try and get my stupid gold AK

i still got 70 odd head shots to get with the g36c arghh. and i am so sick of using that gun it just dont feel right to me!

im yet to try the p90 i dont feel i even need to mp5 is lethal as. why try harder

you will always be cool winny.... for a hilly billy farmer

[sad.act]

Bandolier + Double tap + Deep impact tbh

Nah they were less advanced than most, they had sit in grass in corner + Double Tap + Martyrdom.

[winfieldsaregoo]

no you get stuck with a heep of faggot snipers not doing any thing











haha im sick of using shitty guns to try and get my stupid gold AK

i still got 70 odd head shots to get with the g36c arghh. and i am so sick of using that gun it just dont feel right to me!

im yet to try the p90 i dont feel i even need to mp5 is lethal as. why try harder

you will always be cool winny.... for a hilly billy farmer




lulzs i would rep you with some sort of funny coment but carnt any more :disappoin

[brucewillis2]

Bandolier + Double tap + Deep impact tbh

p90 + 3xfrag nades + Martyrdom + Double tap imo, pisses people right off.

[The Tick]

p90 + 3xfrag nades + Martyrdom + Double tap imo, pisses people right off.

lol Hell yea!

[dark_angel]

...sigh its so stupid...oh i got shot in the head but i can still manage to pull the pin on a nade

[Chook]

MEH.. its a new game.. its hard to get an idea of whether there will be bugs in the game before release.. there are so many different hardware/drivers/configurations out there. Thats what patches are for to patch the problems when they arise.

[brucewillis2]

MEH.. its a new game.. its hard to get an idea of whether there will be bugs in the game before release.. there are so many different hardware/drivers/configurations out there. Thats what patches are for to patch the problems when they arise.

keep it on topic please. :bounce:

[xcuzznxtimmyx]

p90 + 3xfrag nades + Martyrdom + Double tap imo, pisses people right off.

i like the p90,

sucks at range tho tbh

gimme a m16 any day