Tournament Poll

[Hazard]

Ok, well after a chat with a few people on the subject, it's clear we need a little poll.

Do you think grenade launchers should be allowed in the tournament or should the be excluded?

The theme coming through is that they are will likely dominate the tournament.

So have your say - GO!

[SneakyNZ]

It is a legitimate weapon in this game, taking it out will be like choping off a assault players right testie O.o

If your going to nurf one class nerf them all :)

The grenade launcher is best used at mid range which is also the best range for rifles thats why so many people don't like it, try ranging a sniper its nearly imposable, or try out shooting a smg with one shell vs 30 at short range.

There are endless possibilities that the grenade launcher can be beaten in, just because it is a weapon that specializes in mid range (And beets your poor assault rifle) doesn't mean we should take it out of game play all together.

My 2cents

[Plasma]

Damn noob tube, drives me nuts at times :)

[5loth]

one of the problems is, no other weapon is a one hit kill (don't bother saying snipers are).

if they are in the game, i would say over 50% of the kills over the whole tournament could easily be with the grenade launcher.

[playerB]

except you, cause you couldn't hit the broadside of your mum.

[Snake_Daddy]

yer take the garret and the noob tube out imo

[Metal-Fingerz]

yea played my first games of cod4 (and i must say god its a nice and long awaited change from bf2) last night... and what i found was the noob tube was a little too lethal and i could imagine in a tournament it would become a primary weapon and there aint too much that can be done to combat it.

[aLi3nZ]

Yeah, remove imo.

[Metal-Fingerz]

Yeah, remove imo.

remove this guy hahaha he raped me last night... join in my first game to see this dude bounce in front of me and blow my head off....

yay my first death was to alienz.

[[tsw].Forsaken]

If you take out Granade Launchers make sure you exclude RPGs aswell....freaking snipers with 2 rockets....like wtf?

[elemunk]

RPG's are a perk.

[bobziolla]

If you take out Granade Launchers make sure you exclude RPGs aswell....freaking snipers with 2 rockets....like wtf?

arabs are versitile people...

[9th.PirateJafa]

I thought RPGs were the Arab's version of sniper rifles! http://www.9thrangers.com/wcf/images/smilies/gob_icon_wink.gif

[Jack_L]

game came with them.

[Spigalau]

game came with them.

Yep - play the game as it comes, don't try & re-engineer it for the sake of a few 'what if wah waaahs'

[`Dirty Heathen]

I voted yes for them only reason being is that the M16 with the nade launcher is a default kit if the nade launhers where only perks I would say no.


I do think that you should only be aloud to use nade launcher in comp with M16.

[xcuzznxtimmyx]

i voted no cos im a sheep

bah

[5loth]

game came with them.

surely you are capable of putting in atleast a bit more thought than that...


so you would be for attack helicopters and airstrikes in search and destroy also?

[`Dirty Heathen]

Yer it is a hard one Sloth I think after this comp we will all have pretty good idea what works and what does not but guess until its a bit of trial and error.


I am looking at this comp for our team as more just learning curve and some fun.

[xcuzznxtimmyx]

Yer it is a hard one Sloth I think after this comp we will all have pretty good idea what works and what does not but guess until its a bit of trial and error.


I am looking at this comp for our team as more just learning curve and some fun.

competitive is always more fun tho...

i know im looking forward to it regardless to what weapons and what not can and can't be used :D

[Lolo]

If they didn't kill without exploding and took the player hit by them to critical I would have voted "leave them in" but as they are, I think they could be far too exploited to make the games fun. and fun is what we are here for right...?

[nevjmac]

leave it in there, its part of the game. at close range they are useless, mid range they are a killer and longe range they are to inaccurate...

in a 5v5 game, they are not going to be able to affect the game, as there are only going to be 5 people on the map, if your running around with a grenade launcher, its more likly your going to come off worse

[5loth]

leave it in there, its part of the game. at close range they are useless, mid range they are a killer and longe range they are to inaccurate...

in a 5v5 game, they are not going to be able to affect the game, as there are only going to be 5 people on the map, if your running around with a grenade launcher, its more likly your going to come off worse

don't say people didn't warn you then :D

[Lolo]

leave it in there, its part of the game. at close range they are useless, mid range they are a killer and longe range they are to inaccurate...

in a 5v5 game, they are not going to be able to affect the game, as there are only going to be 5 people on the map, if your running around with a grenade launcher, its more likly your going to come off worse
At close range they are an insta kill...... and there is no risk that you will take yourself out.

[5loth]

and at long range, they're still fucken lethal if you know how to use them.

[elemunk]

I voted take them out, as did all of sila.

Here is why.

Currently, with VERY little practise, I can take out 2 to 3 enemy players from my spawn, to their spawn, from the start of the game, this is not skill, this is merely cloud spotting+timing.

If you think the noob tube is inaccurate, you don't know how to use it properly, as it has pin point accuracy (forget about the pretty smoke stream) across the map.

So lets say they were allowed in the tournament.

Im going to nail down all spots, all timings, for all maps (sounds gay huh? welcome to top end competitive gaming), after I have done this, I will then teach it to my other 4 teammates, that's 5 noobtubes, launching from spawn, (there are only 2 or 3 routes for each map) covering all routes, at different spots/timings.

The only way a team could combat this, is to hold back pinned behind their spawn.... all the better for me, to get my players into the aggressive camping positions without opposition, for which normally with no noobtubes it would be too risky to rush in.

[Menial]

Hooray for the outdoor lifestyle :D

[Ra1nm4n]

Well elemunk time to go outside for you. Your gonna need it.

[Jack_L]

surely you are capable of putting in atleast a bit more thought than that...


so you would be for attack helicopters and airstrikes in search and destroy also?

i've never moaned about unfair weapons in any game unless it was a defect in the code - in which in the last case i wrote a patch.

my attitude is just get on with it. i also dont care if i disagree with the majority of voters

[Lyesalot]

Every setting can be changed for a reason. :asian:

[`Dirty Heathen]

I voted take them out, as did all of sila.

Here is why.

Currently, with VERY little practise, I can take out 2 to 3 enemy players from my spawn, to their spawn, from the start of the game, this is not skill, this is merely cloud spotting+timing.

If you think the noob tube is inaccurate, you don't know how to use it properly, as it has pin point accuracy (forget about the pretty smoke stream) across the map.

So lets say they were allowed in the tournament.

Im going to nail down all spots, all timings, for all maps (sounds gay huh? welcome to top end competitive gaming), after I have done this, I will then teach it to my other 4 teammates, that's 5 noobtubes, launching from spawn, (there are only 2 or 3 routes for each map) covering all routes, at different spots/timings.

The only way a team could combat this, is to hold back pinned behind their spawn.... all the better for me, to get my players into the aggressive camping positions without opposition, for which normally with no noobtubes it would be too risky to rush in.



Very good points.


One way to stop this in the pubs is to do what the Americas army servers do, you cannot fire nade launcher for the first 35 seconds of the round for the very reasons you have pointed out..

[9th.PirateJafa]

So lets say they were allowed in the tournament.

Im going to nail down all spots, all timings, for all maps (sounds gay huh? welcome to top end competitive gaming), after I have done this, I will then teach it to my other 4 teammates, that's 5 noobtubes, launching from spawn, (there are only 2 or 3 routes for each map) covering all routes, at different spots/timings.

The only way a team could combat this, is to hold back pinned behind their spawn.... all the better for me, to get my players into the aggressive camping positions without opposition, for which normally with no noobtubes it would be too risky to rush in.

And that would work for one scrim. After that, all other clans will copy the tactic, spend a coupla hours practicing then each and every scrim after that will be a case of ten second mortar warfare.

Following which 'tubes would most likely be removed from scrim play.

Same result really.

[Plasma]

My clan use to practice these tactics back when i use to play sof2. We were firing the noob tube out of skylights and nailing the other team.
Its not hard to work out the correct spots etc.

[5loth]

And that would work for one scrim. After that, all other clans will copy the tactic, spend a coupla hours practicing then each and every scrim after that will be a case of ten second mortar warfare.

Following which 'tubes would most likely be removed from scrim play.

Same result really.

and that is why you remove them.

sila just had our first scrim with MB, with no gren launchers or stun nades.

game is 10x better like this.

[klol]

Why no stun grenades? Without the perk don't you get one per person?

[5loth]

Why no stun grenades? Without the perk don't you get one per person?

they are annoying, overpowered in many peoples opinion, slow down the pace of the game, and have been turned off in overseas tournaments already.

[swindle]

They need to go.

Basicly elemunk has it down. And honestly, who the fuck wants to have a scrim with sila. and have them nail 3-4 guys right from the first second lol

[KiLL3r]

They need to go.

Basicly elemunk has it down. And honestly, who the fuck wants to have a scrim with sila. and have them nail 3-4 guys right from the first second lol

you could always just get rid of sila instead :D


j/k ;)

[5loth]

we're saints around here compared to some of the dribble thats still dripping off the walls.. :P

[Ra1nm4n]

we're saints around here compared to some of the dribble thats still dripping off the walls.. :P

All i have to say is this man speaks the truth even though he may sometimes sound like yoda.

[swindle]

we're saints around here compared to some of the dribble thats still dripping off the walls.. :P
Saints? I dont know about that,

What i do know though, is you're fucking good. No denying it. The last thing i want is to get shafted every game becasue you can fire a noodtube across the map and hit me dead on.

Fuck that.

[blight]

well after the discussion thread i was beginning to lose hope, i'm glad the majority of you see how grenade launchers and stun grenades detract from the gameplay. My only other main concern is the auto-snipers which i think should also be disabled, however i think that the bolt action rifles need to be one shot kill (cept to feet/hands) and need pinpoint accuracy over long distances (currently sniper fights are more about who gets a lucky shot than anything)

[swindle]

Focus on the noobtubes for now. At the least...

[nevjmac]

trial them ^_^ see how a few rounds go with the noob-tubes in there, leave them in the comp for the first two weeks... if by then the outcome is nade launcher spamming then let them go.

But i honestly can't see them being so effective

[Menial]

I can

[5loth]

if you (NZR) have 5, we should have a scrim with the grenade launchers on.

i'm confident after the scrim you won't still want them on.

[klol]

I'm confident I (Sad Act), could go 1 for 20 against 5 of NZR.

[nzBaron]

lol. I feel a bit cheap using the nade launcher sum times - as it IS deadly fucking accurate over long distances. But pubs arent about fair (wake has taught me this).
Scrims however should be.

[nevjmac]

if you (NZR) have 5, we should have a scrim with the grenade launchers on.

i'm confident after the scrim you won't still want them on.
We do have 5. more than that we are submitting more than one team...

Could do a scrim will see what the other admins say.

[5loth]

We do have 5. more than that we are submitting more than one team...

Could do a scrim will see what the other admins say.

we'd be keen tomorrow night.

[Xt1ncT]

And honestly, who the fuck wants to have a scrim with sila. and have them own everyone in sight loledited for truth ;)

[`Dirty Heathen]

Well after my games last night I have now grown a passionate hate for the noob tube every cunt on the other team was using one I doupt many of them even fired bullets it really made the game boring.


So I change my vote.


I will also be running our new server no noob tubes.

[5tacK]

Yeah, I originally didn't mind them at first and only used them a couple of times myself.

Then it seems as if everyone finally unlocked them and now use them exclusively bar a grenade for good measure.

Quite a few people that post on these forums know exactly what/who I'm referring to.

L2useagun.

[nz_skytek]

we'd be keen tomorrow night.

If u wana play NZR in a sricm u can do it right here http://nzrebels.freeforums.org/viewforum.php?f=44

Just name ur date and time and sever.

Thank you Sila but u think one of u guys can take on 5 of us rebels some how i dont think so.

Admin/Boss
Skytek

[5loth]

If u wana play NZR in a sricm u can do it right here http://nzrebels.freeforums.org/viewforum.php?f=44

Just name ur date and time and sever.

Thank you Sila but u think one of u guys can take on 5 of us rebels some how i dont think so.

Admin/Boss
Skytek

LOL.

no i won't sign up to forums, that is unnecessary.

Sunday evening 8:30? I will PM you server details.

[nz_skytek]

LOL.

no i won't sign up to forums, that is unnecessary.

Sunday evening 8:30? I will PM you server details.

Sorry mate cant do that time we have a sricm with ISF.

[5loth]

Sorry mate cant do that time we have a sricm with ISF.

thats ok. refer to ban/unban requests as to why we won't be wasting
our time with you.

[nz_skytek]

thats ok. refer to ban/unban requests as to why we won't be wasting
our time with you.

We dont wana waste ur time now do we. U guys Think u got more skill than us anyway. Yea whateva.Who cares about what one of my members did. Oh well. It cums around. But hey we will face u in to comp so i dont care what u say about one of my members. as we have many members anyway.

[5loth]

We dont wana waste ur time now do we. U guys Think u got more skill than us anyway. Yea whateva.Who cares about what one of my members did. Oh well. It cums around. But hey we will face u in to comp so i dont care what u say about one of my members. as we have many members anyway.

once again,


lol.

[5loth]

LOL.

PM Subject: Grown up.
^ lol wtf.


Man u members are soo good at crying. Thats what i saw on the sever when switch was kicked. or was it the other noob. So i`ll leave u with this. U think Ur soo smart but ur not in fact ur hole clan can be beaten and i know who by.

So good by 5loth c u on the battlefield.

Dont 4get to bring ur noobtube to.

guess what buddy, it ain't you :D

[nz_skytek]

LOL.

PM Subject: Grown up.
^ lol wtf.



guess what buddy, it ain't you :D

hahahaha C cant handle it talking it ova pm. Oh what a kid.

Bye Sila clan pussy **** *** ****. If u cant handle it then u gotya grow up.

[5loth]

hahahaha C cant handle it talking it ova pm. Oh what a kid.

Bye Sila clan pussy **** *** ****. If u cant handle it then u gotya grow up.

lol...why the fuck would i want to 'talk it ova pm'.

honestly until you are ready to play us, please just shut up, you're all talk no action.

[nz_skytek]

lol...why the fuck would i want to 'talk it ova pm'.

honestly until you are ready to play us, please just shut up, you're all talk no action.

Ok next sunday bring it on 830pm. Ref will be needed. As this game will be sila saying hacks.

U will fall and Sila i dont care if u win. LOL

830pm Sunday 25th U got a game VS the NZR.
Sever TBA

[5loth]

Ok next sunday bring it on 830pm. Ref will be needed. As this game will be sila saying hacks.

U will fall and Sila i dont care if u win. LOL

830pm Sunday 25th U got a game VS the NZR.
Sever TBA

1. we're not going to organise a scrim thats over a week away
2. why the fuck would you need a ref
3. we have a server
4. you guys are shit, seriously


if you want a scrim, we can play ANY night including tonight, theres no
need to wait.

but honestly, just give it a rest, and go back to school please.

[nz_skytek]

1. we're not going to organise a scrim thats over a week away
2. why the fuck would you need a ref
3. we have a server
4. you guys are shit, seriously


if you want a scrim, we can play ANY night including tonight, theres no
need to wait.

but honestly, just give it a rest, and go back to school please.

If u read my profile ur c that i am ova 18

We are booked out with sricms thats is y i have said about 1 week away.

[Hazard]

*sigh

please make it stop..... all this BS and hate makes my head hurt.

In my opinion, take it to a scrim. Winning takes all the fame, fortune, glory, etc. And after that, just drop it - no more BS, no more drama.

If you really want a ref, I'm happy to help, but I agree with 5loth - there should be no need for a ref and over a week from now is a long time to call a scrim for.