BestBuy Pre-Order Bonus Gun

[KiLL3r]

The Bofors Defence machine gun is an exclusive reward for pre-ordering Battlefield 2142™ from Best Buy in North America or Future Shop in Canada. As Battlefield gamers can attest, unlocks are one of the most appealing aspects of the franchise - it's all about getting the points you need to unlock all of the best weapons. However, no amount of points will ever get you this weapon, so if you haven't pre-ordered yet, find out more here www.bestbuy.com.
http://www.totalbf2142.com/images/misc/bbgun.jpg

http://battlefield.ea.com/battlefield/bf2142/landing.aspx

[5loth]

fuken lol

buy the game before u find out u don't like it, or u will not get this gun

[Menial]

wow, that is a new level of shameless slutting _b EA

[Hazard]

Oh my god guys - come on!! Do you not get tired of this?

EA is hardly the first game to do this sort of thing. Retailers, game developers, etc have been doing this sort of thing for AGES.

Getting the pre-orders is pretty much essential for some of the retailers, so this type of thing helps them secure those pre-orders.

Shameless? Hardly.
Chances are BestBuys went to EA and worked out what the best thing for a "bonus if you buy from us" would be. Rather than the pointless wirst bands and key chains you see with a lot of games, someone must have came up with something that would actaully be worthwhile for people that are going to play this game.

I think it's very clever marketing by Best Buys - good on them for trying to push sales and increase their business, after all - they are a business, not a charity.

[BerG]

Ok. I was alright with the pre-naming to get your rank and your veteran status, but this is total bs.

Its like Special Forces. Either you buy it or you get continually pwned by the guys that do and have the F2000.

Whats the bet the Bofers Defence machine gun totally pwns, so everyone that doesnt pre-order is instantly screwed.

Its an exploit. It means we wont be playing on a level playing ground. Its like USA with their UAV's and tanks and technology attacking poor old Iraq with their AK-47's and rocks.

While they're at it, why not make it so everyone who pre-orders gets some X-Ray goggles to see through walls, 500% strength body armour, and permanent scan to show enemy positions on radar.

This is crap. Im enraged.

[5loth]

Oh my god guys - come on!! Do you not get tired of this?


do you think it is fair that anyone who doesn't pre-order the game, because
perhaps they would like to wait a month for a game to be released and if its good/popular then go and buy it, to not get an additional weapon in the game? for all we know that
could be the most powerful gun in the game

[KiLL3r]

berg plz go die somewhere hopefully soon you wont be able to visit this part of the forum anymore.

[Menial]

Oh my god guys - come on!! Do you not get tired of this?


I get tired of EA doing this.

Again they try to put non-pre orderers at a dis-advantage. It is very poor.

I honestly like good video games, I really do.

I hope 2142 is a really good game, if so I will but it and I will play it. I will enjoy it. My best interest as a PC game consumer is for this to be a fun and enjoyable game.

[BerG]

berg plz go die somewhere hopefully soon you wont be able to visit this part of the forum anymore.

You think this is a good thing? You think everyone has to agree with you?

[Simon_NZ]

This reeks of sweaty man sacks

[KiLL3r]

You think this is a good thing? You think everyone has to agree with you?

no but when you do disagree at least come up with some valid points not the same thign over and over again.

[BerG]

no but when you do disagree at least come up with some valid points not the same thign over and over again.

lol silly Killer. Please explain how my above points about giving some players an unfair advantage are the same as my other anti-BF2142 points (ie lol at the trees).

No you cant can you. They are totally different.

[5loth]

the problem Killer is that you are so onesided on your opinion of this game, in your eyes nothing can go wrong it seems

[Hazard]

I get tired of EA doing this.

Why is it always EA's fault?
I will put money on the fact that Best Buys went to EA wanting an incentive for their customers. Now either Best Buys or EA came up with the idea. EA didn't just say "hey lets do this to piss people off" - fact is, it's only their due to Best Buy wanting something - yet we aren't saying "bloody Best Buys".

Personally, I think it's a very good idea. I'm sick of buying games and getting a wrist band or a key chain, hat, etc - I never use any of them. At least people who pre-order through Best Buy are going to get something they can actually use.

How many people here are going to get it through Best Buys anyway? I'm not even sure if we can due to not being in the US, so it's not really going to impact us.

And of course a company is going to want to secure pre-orders, it's how companies work.
It help eliminate some of the risks involved with releasing a new game. Every company has been doing it for years, yet I have never seen a thread saying "bloody ID Software trying to reward pre-orders"

I just get tired of seeing EA do something, people rip the shit out of them.
Another software company does the same thing and it's all good.

Fact is they are there to make money, and to make money they make/sell games.
Pre-orders are a good thing for both resellers and developers, so of course they are going to encourage pre-orders. And as consumers, we are of course going to go with the purchase that gives us the most value - in this case many consumers will go with the pre-order from Best Buys as what they offer may be the most attractive bonus at this stage.

Others will go with EB Games to get the Dog Tag and Rank up.

Neither of these options are an EA marketing plan, otherwise we would see "Pre-Order from EA and get xxxxxx". These are marketing plans from EB and Best Buys, who have used their brains and got in touch with EA to make their pre-order the most popular.

[henno]

berg plz go die somewhere hopefully soon you wont be able to visit this part of the forum anymore.

Should we rename this forum killer's 2142 marketing forum.
:chuckle:

[SLAYER!@#]

Should we rename this forum killer's 2142 marketing forum.
:chuckle:

LOL You got my vote.

[SLAYER!@#]

Anyone know of any pre-order deals we can get here in NZ? Can we get the EB one?
Best Buy pre-orders won't really effect our part of the world, why worry about it.

[KiLL3r]

the problem Killer is that you are so onesided on your opinion of this game, in your eyes nothing can go wrong it seems
you couldnt be more wrong. Sure i hate bugs in bf2 but im not gonna whine about them in every bf2 thread like berg donkey and menial do here

[Arnifix]

Yeah, what can we NZ'ers get? It's stink if we CAN'T unlock this gun without buying from best buy in the states, but I want to know what we CAN get.

[Menial]

Why is it always EA's fault?

Because this is the battlefield series, they run it. Who else has sole control of the direction?

It would be slightly incorrect to blame Sid Meier.



I will put money on the fact that Best Buys went to EA wanting an incentive for their customers. Now either Best Buys or EA came up with the idea. EA didn't just say "hey lets do this to piss people off" - fact is, it's only their due to Best Buy wanting something - yet we aren't saying "bloody Best Buys".


I would bet money that EA are recieving a premium for making BB the sole benifactors



Personally, I think it's a very good idea. I'm sick of buying games and getting a wrist band or a key chain, hat, etc - I never use any of them. At least people who pre-order through Best Buy are going to get something they can actually use.
I pre-order to recieve 10-15 % off the rrp.


How many people here are going to get it through Best Buys anyway? I'm not even sure if we can due to not being in the US, so it's not really going to impact us.
now, that's not the spirit, the other day I saw a 5 year old girl being beaten to death with a brick, I could have said no, her death would not impact me. But, no, I stopped the criminals, I saved her life.


And of course a company is going to want to secure pre-orders, it's how companies work.
It help eliminate some of the risks involved with releasing a new game. Every company has been doing it for years, yet I have never seen a thread saying "bloody ID Software trying to reward pre-orders"

This is a BF forum, ID SOFTWARE DOES NOT MAKE BF


I just get tired of seeing EA do something, people rip the shit out of them.
Another software company does the same thing and it's all good.


Because this is the battlefield series, they run it. Who else has sole control of the direction?


Fact is they are there to make money, and to make money they make/sell games.
Pre-orders are a good thing for both resellers and developers, so of course they are going to encourage pre-orders. And as consumers, we are of course going to go with the purchase that gives us the most value - in this case many consumers will go with the pre-order from Best Buys as what they offer may be the most attractive bonus at this stage.

NO, THE FACT IS EA SOFTWARE HAS RELEASED TWO EXPANSION PACKS AND IS POURING A SEEMINGLY ENDLESS STREAM OF RESOURCES INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AND PROMOTION OF THE NEXT INSTALLMENT.


During this time we have had faulty patch after faulty patch; including the piece de resistance, a patch that has been released for months that crashes the games servers. No more than scant regard has been paid in remedying this, surely a hotfix would be in order. EA clearly value their customers so lowly, that they would delay the patch until they had instituted a raft of other changes instead of releasing the patch forth with.
I have never played any game that was as singularaly flawed as BF2 1.3

This is the source of alot of the anger towards 2142, they still have an unfinshed product that they sold, yet they are pedelling another.

Do you know much about EA's history and notorioty Hazard?

Others will go with EB Games to get the Dog Tag and Rank up.
does not give people an ingame advantage, fyi rank up negligable- scoring over 3 points per minute is extremely easily, even without using my leet BF2 pre-order special beanie.

Neither of these options are an EA marketing plan, otherwise we would see "Pre-Order from EA and get xxxxxx". These are marketing plans from EB and Best Buys, who have used their brains and got in touch with EA to make their pre-order the most popular.
They ARE marketing plans from EA, they want to sell as many copies of it as possible in any way shape or form. The size of EA's marketing department would be dizable, they would have full collaboration on any such project and would have a great deal more clout than "best buys"

With love,

as always

Menial

[Menial]

you couldnt be more wrong. Sure i hate bugs in bf2 but im not gonna whine about them in every bf2 thread like berg donkey and menial do here I hate those fucking bf2/1942/poe2/fh2/bfv/bf2142 trees
Say what you will about me. Just leave the trees out of this.

[Donkey]

This reeks of sweaty man sacks

Best post ever. And so true.

[Menial]

actually scrap what I said. Fubar said It much better http://forums.iconzarena.co.nz/showpost.php?p=221422&postcount=28

My beef is I was sold half the promised product in BF2. Clan tagged uniforms, bftv, laser designation.........then we have the poor support to correct the problems, poor beta testing of the original release and then the following patches.

Now we have BF2142, basically the same engine, same bugs are in it, some of what they promise now was promised with BF2 but never eventuated, now we see they are already cutting back on what was promised again. Then we can only expect the support will be no better than what we have had with BF2.

As for posting in this part of the forum..........last time I looked it was an open forum. Are we going to lock forums based on whether you have pre-ordered now? Shit we still allow convicted hackers to post in here

As for my post above about "the good features of BF2", the ones they are harping on about caused some of the problems. The stats system has created the host of tards we have now, spawn raping, carrier raping, stat padding, lack of teamwork, selfishness......the list goes on. This forum would sure get boring if there is no opposing argument


Well most of it.

[Hazard]

I'm honestly sick to death of this shit.

People have opinions, and yet others seem to think it is their personal mission to make them change their mind.

All I am doing is pointing out that people seem to have a very narrow mind when it comes to EA. I'm not saying EA are great - far, far from it. It's just I see double standards when it comes to them - and yes, I do know a fair bit about their history.

I saw it on NZBF forums, someone made a brilliant post along the lines of this:

"ID Software are delaying QW:ET, man they rock, really looking out for the players to deliver a bug free product"

"EA/DICE are delaying 1.4 to ensure it's a better release - BOOO!!! EA SUCK!!!"

And it's this sort of thing I don't like.

I don't care if you think BF2142 is going to be a big pile of dog shit - that is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

What I want to know is why there are several people here hell bent on coming to the BF2142 and posting total rubbish that simply puts down players that are going to get this game? Why can these people not have an opinion that differs you yours?

Like I said, I'm sick and fucken tired of coming here to read post after post of total rubbish, people abusing Kill3r for posting good information, people posting the same old "It's just a mod" shit. It's just all negitivity. A gaming community should be what games are about - fun. Yet we seem to have managed to get way the fuck of the rails and just seem content on abusing one another for different views/opinions.

Really, does this actually achieve anything? No - it does not.

I like BF2142, I am going to pay for it and I am going to enjoy it - how the hell is that a problem for a lot of you? You are NOT going to make me dislike it by saying "the trees are the same", "it's just a mod", etc, etc, etc.

Many of you are not going to get it, not going to want it - and not myself, or anyone else will change that either - so why come here and dis those that are going to get it.

Let's all do a bit of growing up here - if you really have nothing better to add than negitivity, please, please post in another forum where your post will be constructive.

As for debate, I think it's good, it's what forums are about - but as mentioned, we seem to always managed to bring in personal abuse and change from just debating to "You're a fucken idiot" and I am truely tired of it.

I look at the forums I run for my clan, and the forums run by other clans and it's all good fun, it's what a gaming community should be about. Yet when we come here we seem to change from fun, to lets get abusive and let's mock anyone with a different opinion. Why the hell is this? Why can't we have a community that is about what games are about - FUN!!

This thread is not really directed at anyone in particular - just something that has been pissing me off for a while due to nothing but negitivity towards one another seeming to take over the larger majority of the forums, especially this one.

So come on guys, lets stop the rubbish, stop the bullshit and stop abusing one another.
Let's have mature discussion that brings more than just "it's just a mod by cash hungry EA".



And yes, I do feel a lot better having said all that.
Sorry if I come across a little strong or pissed off, just had enough.

[Menial]

/laughs and points

[Hazard]

/laughs and points
And this is exactly what I'm talking about - yet another brilliantly constructive post - well done

And yes, I know you guys are going to rip into every last bit of my post - it's what we do around here isn't it?

[BerG]

Dont blame me, I come here and post my opinion, I dont tell anyone they are idiots, and then I get told to "plz go die somewhere".

LOL

[5loth]

i'm sorry hazard you seem to have a problem with us sharing our opinions, its not our fault each new thing that is brought up about this game is NOT appealing to us (guns to only those who pre-order the game, how does that make a GAME an even playing field if some people have weapons others have NO access to).
If i came in here and it said something along the lines of, 'EA have announced that
2142 is going to give you blowjobs under your desk as you play' i'd say GREAT,
but each little thing this game has going for it does not tickle my fancy, not to mention the fact i have just heard the 2142 beta STILL HAS THE RED BUG. so it is paying for a mod,
whether you like it or not.

Like i said, we're not here to just be negative on everything, its that everything so far has
deserved a negative reaction in my opinion.

I commend Kill3r for all the effort he's doing in bringing forward new information to the NZ scene regarding the new game, but if i don't like that information, i will have my word on the matter, being that this is a discussion board. and if they bring new information forward for 2142 that i actually like, i will be here commending it.


fuken red bug ffs....

[Hazard]

Like I said, it's not directed at anyone in particular - just the general attitude.

And yeah, I fully expect people to share their opinions, good or bad - but it's they way in which a lot of people are doing it that gets to me.

As for the "it's a mod" thing. Can people please open their minds a little further.
There are heaps of games build on existing engines - that dosen't make them a mod. It makes them a game built on an existing engine.

Medal of Honour is not a mod for Quake3, yet is is built on the same engine, and the list goes on.

Yeah, it has bugs in it still, including the red/blue bug - but at least they are making an effort this time, they are public BETA testing - and you have to admit, this is at least a step in the right direction.

Will they have all the bugs fixed by release? Not expecting them to.
Shit, I don't even expect them to make the release date. But I do commend them for taking steps to make it a better and more bug free release than previous releases.

[KiLL3r]

btw where did u get this info of the red/blue bug being in the beta??

please find me info regarding this because only time i have seen it mentioned is on this forum. I think it was something one of the whiners made up tbh

[BerG]

Na its not I saw a screenshot of it.

<TEAM> Nubzor_69: lol at trees

[GhostOfGallipoli]

if i could just halt the pantie throwing for just a sec. best buy has done this before with auto assualt(???) where if you pre ordered you got some weapon upgrades.



it's not going to affect us all tucked away down here so quit your pointless POINTLESS cookie-cutter moaning

[Hazard]

Yup, and it's due to BB going to the developers and cutting a deal, not the developers going to BB.

[Menial]

Go back to the beginning of the 2142 attitudes, look at the evolution fo the forum, as killer has become more vehement and vitriolic so has the tone of the forum, what started as honest criticism has become honest criticsim plus spite.

And lol /edit Hazard, it's not like BB forced them to put in the gun.

[Arnifix]

people abusing Kill3r for posting good information
I don't abuse kill3r for posting good information. I abuse him because it pleases me. In the pants.

[Menial]

Perhaps we could consider ourselves as the jilted ex lover. We were promised to be taken to Paris, Milan, New York, London. We were taken briefly to Hamilton, Motueka, Flaxmere and finished off in Timaru. Sure we had some fun there, but we always thought we were destined to greater things all the while Lover Boy was planning where next to take his new toy.

This is more the crux of the misplace angst, sure we don't like Kill3r because he is a known m95ng-tking-for-planes-tard, and that may have something to do with it, but in truth, we feel let down.

[Hazard]

And lol /edit Hazard, it's not like BB forced them to put in the gun.

I give up. You guys don't want to see anything past your noses, thats fine.

I can see the good and the bad with this game, I choose to focus more on the good than the bad, same with BF2. Others seem to get so tied up with the bad they cannot see the good. Guess it depends on your outlook on life.

BB did not force them to put it in, but EA wouldn't have come up with the gun and just had it sitting there waiting for a company to ask for it. It was most likely to be one of the first unlocks and BB said "hey, we want that as an exclusive unlock, what sort of deal can we do".

[Spacemonkey]

That gun looks cool, but it doesn't look all that powerful, Maybe people are going to have an advantage when they first start off, but i'm sure the unlocks will be much better.

And if people spend their money to preorder the game, then they deserve their gun.

[Arnifix]

So... Does anybody know about bonuses for preorder buyers here?

[dirtyape]

giving a weapon unlock that offers a "real" world advantage to those who pre-order is immoral in my books. It's black mail. "pre-order this or else you dont get the goodies!"

whether the gun is any good or not is irrelevant.

the difference between this and other games pre-order goodies is that this one has direct ingame consequences within a multiplayer environment. I'm not sure whether any other games have done that before. I can't think of any.

but, at the end of the day. who gives a shit.

[Jack_L]

chances are if enuf people pre-order, speculation about the gun will be pretty critical when the games starts being played for real.

within a week we will all know if the gun was rort or worth it. and if it was worth it, do you think they will continue to sell it or close the counter on new sales?

i bet teh shop stays open for a bit longer

[Spacemonkey]

lots of games do, Guild wars came out with a collecters editon which had bonus stuff, NFS most wanted had a collecters edition which that had another car. And i'm sure there are many more games out there.

[gt;gt;gt;L2lt;lt;lt;]

In a way this is all funny...

Each of us whether we know it or not are at different stage in our gaming lives...

This does not make any of us right or wrong..we all base our opinions and judgements on our own experience.

Kill3r is passionate about this game - at the same time this benefits us all as the info in this forum is imo the best in NZ at this time...

There is quite a lot of time taken by Kill3r to post constructively about the game. I mean look at the wealth of info he has provided in a condensed area..gr8 to see.

I mean I appreciate this..and respect his efforts...
___________

Dice Shy

On the other hand other gamers with a more diverse experience are "once bitten twice shy" - or "Dice Shy"

Surely they are also entitled to voice their frustration and also their dissapointment..

really EA/Dice have made their own bed...one hopes the Devils advocate comments will make EA/Dice to a good or better job..maybe negative comments should be viewed as constructive...

In the hoipe that the devlopers will listen to their gaming public more...

___________

Trees

Finally I found the whole "tree thing" hilarious and it was entertaining - no one was being abused just EAs trees...

So who cares - lets have fun and discuss...jeez its a game it was hell funny and we shouldnt be too precious...

___________

Weps Advantage

On the subject of marketing with the Bofors gun...
There are many valid points made that are entirely new...

Im not sure I feel good knowing that some Yank can buy from that outlet and pwn me in game whe the game is being sold to me as "earn and customise" your persistent character the way you want...

This was hugely appealijg to me...

Now if I knew that DSE would have the wep/game option I might buy from them...to get the wep...but I would feel "not good" - and peeps would know as soon as you pwned them LOL!

Its a very interesting subject and - imo - a new way of marketing...but one that EA has to be careful with...

We dont know where or how it will end up yet...

[dirtyape]

why don't they sell all weapon upgrades, so instead of earning them you can just buy the fuckers. I'm sure they'll make a lot outta that. They could even make it so you could buy rank! w00t

:popcorn:

[Donkey]

OMG L2 WOULD YOU JUST LEAVE THE POOR BLOODY TREES ALONE!

[KiLL3r]

giving a weapon unlock that offers a "real" world advantage to those who pre-order is immoral in my books. It's black mail. "pre-order this or else you dont get the goodies!"

whether the gun is any good or not is irrelevant.

the difference between this and other games pre-order goodies is that this one has direct ingame consequences within a multiplayer environment. I'm not sure whether any other games have done that before. I can't think of any.

but, at the end of the day. who gives a shit.

guild wars

[BerG]

lol at the trees.

[dirtyape]

guild wars

guild wars pvp? or guild wars non-pvp?

[KiLL3r]

guild wars pvp? or guild wars non-pvp?

you could use it in both. in my preorder i got a bow that does 20% more damage.

[dirtyape]

you could use it in both. in my preorder i got a bow that does 20% more damage.

reeeeeeee! :eek:

[gt;gt;gt;L2lt;lt;lt;]

OMG L2 WOULD YOU JUST LEAVE THE POOR BLOODY TREES ALONE!


No trees were harmed, chainsawed,pulped, hacked or shredded in this post...

Your L2 Tree care guarantee...

[MrBenis]

I get tired of EA doing this.

Again they try to put non-pre orderers at a dis-advantage. It is very poor.

I honestly like good video games, I really do.

I hope 2142 is a really good game, if so I will but it and I will play it. I will enjoy it. My best interest as a PC game consumer is for this to be a fun and enjoyable game.

The thing is.. it says "exclusive" unlock, right? The beta sure didn't have this gun in it.

I'm assuming that you cannot actually unlock this.

[gt;gt;gt;L2lt;lt;lt;]

why don't they sell all weapon upgrades, so instead of earning them you can just buy the fuckers. I'm sure they'll make a lot outta that. They could even make it so you could buy rank! w00t

:popcorn:



Bait bait!!! restraining myself!!!

[Fubar]

you could use it in both. in my preorder i got a bow that does 20% more damage.

Are you sure about this Killer as with both versions of the collector editions there is no mention of in game weapons being given out?

Most noticable difference with the Factions version was when you type "dance" you had a backup group of dancers and spot lights. Other than that all you get was mouse pads, posters etc

[Hazard]

There was a Pre-Order Edition and a Collectors Edition - only the Pre-Order Edition had the bonus weapon:


Pre-order edition
Players who pre-ordered Factions were able to get a bonus CD.
The disc included:

*concept art
*unique pre-order only weapons
*early access to Factions game play
*access to beta events
*10-hour trial to the original Guild Wars
more here - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild_Wars:_Factions

[Fubar]

I stand corrected :rnr:

One point of difference between a free weapon in Guild Wars versus BF2142 is that in GW there are a massive numer of variables in a characters build with skills, armour and runes etc that can make it powerful or weak, whereas BF2142 it (we assume will be a stronger weapon) will give an advantage and the game is based on two traits skill and weapon

[Jack_L]

i got a minipet dragon. stpid fukn thing

[Hazard]

Yeah, there are some bad points to giving away a weapon. But to be honest I think it's a much better idea than stupid wrist bands and chains that never get used. At least it's something the people will actually get benefit from.

I don't really think it will affect us at the end of the day as I believe we cannot qualify for the pre-order from Best Buys. So it looks like we just have to settle with more wrist bands :P

[HyperBlade]

I was going to buy this game, had made up my mind to, i thought maybe ea has learnt.

Now there is no way i will ever touch it, this is just like sf which was a bs move to begin with. this isn't like other game companies adding extra stuff, this gun will pwn, and thats just unfair to all players.

Im seriously disapointed in Ea. Ruined a great series. :(

[KiLL3r]

i got a minipet dragon. stpid fukn thing

sell it dude its worth 100k

i got a mini shiro i sold for 100k+ a few ectos

[KiLL3r]

ok i heard that this gun has same stats as the standard assault rifle except with a different skin.

so quit ya whining

[Menial]

omg, best buys pre oreders got ripped off, fucken ea

nb. This is tongue in cheek, no need for moderation. Valid satirical comment okay.

[HyperBlade]

ok i heard that this gun has same stats as the standard assault rifle except with a different skin.

so quit ya whining

I don't believe that, after sf, and having an assualt gun with noticable bonuses over standard weapons there is no way i would trust anyone that says the guns are the same.

[PhobosNoize]

I liked this quote, well said!!

Perhaps we could consider ourselves as the jilted ex lover. We were promised to be taken to Paris, Milan, New York, London. We were taken briefly to Hamilton, Motueka, Flaxmere and finished off in Timaru. .

They should make maps basedon those locations. All bombed out and burning tho, as they should be.


giving a weapon unlock that offers a "real" world advantage to those who pre-order is immoral in my books. It's black mail. "pre-order this or else you dont get the goodies!"
I see it more like, buy early and get the prize sorta thing. Now if you had a tactical nuke you could use like once ever, now that would be an unlock worth paying for!!


but, at the end of the day. who gives a shit.
exactly.

on Trees: so you're expecting them to look different in 100 years? in 1000 years? interesting
so they look the same as bf2? whip de freakn doooo (see quote above)

[BerG]

Was more a location thing. Here we have Chinese trees in Africa. We are only joking about the trees anyway no-one really cares.

lol at the trees, though.

[Spacemonkey]

lol at the trees.

[gt;gt;gt;L2lt;lt;lt;]

ROFL @ Trees...and grass...

[Jack_L]

wot happen to u the other night. i only just got into the pilot seat in time

[Arnifix]

ROFFLE TREESGRASS FAGGS!

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:disappoin